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Apple never got rid of SMS. And there has been no embrace or extend. All they did was put an optional message service in the same app. One that isn’t even the

Apple never got rid of SMS. And there has been no embrace or extend. All they did was put an optional message service in the same app. One that isn’t even the most popular making it strange to say there is no competition.

FireBeyond 3y ago
> All they did was put an optional message service in the same app. They did a bit more than that. There were the glory days that if you ever left the Apple ecosystem, but iMessage ever had an awareness of your number, no other iMessage users could reach you until or unless you did some incantations that Apple didn't make obvious, ideally from an Apple device (that you may not own anymore), to allow your friends to keep sending you even green bubble messages? I know multiple people who had to go to Apple stores to try to do this process.
- pixl97 3y ago
  Ya I got bit switching to android when people started calling wondering what happened when I wouldn't respond to their texts.
- tcmart14 3y ago
  However, the same thing happened to me when I switched from my pixel 3a to an iPhone. I wasn't able to text from my iPhone for a week. I ended up contacting Verizon and they actually had their network engineers investigating. What they ended up discovering, and sent me a contact number for it, was that some how Google's RCS was still holding a lock on my number or something. So this isn't an exclusive Apple problem.
Repulsion9513 3y ago
> there has been no embrace or extend Embrace: include SMS Extend: add iMessage
- threeseed 3y ago
  That's not what the phrase means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...
  - Repulsion9513 3y ago
    Embrace: include HTML Extend: add ActiveX Yeah, it is.
    - endemic 3y ago
      Could users still access functionality of pages with ActiveX content, albeit in a “degraded” state?
      - talldayo 3y ago
        Given that it never fully replaced HTML, yes.

FireBeyond 3y ago

> All they did was put an optional message service in the same app. They did a bit more than that. There were the glory days that if you ever left the Apple ecosystem, but iMessage ever had an awareness of your number, no other iMessage users could reach you until or unless you did some incantations that Apple didn't make obvious, ideally from an Apple device (that you may not own anymore), to allow your friends to keep sending you even green bubble messages? I know multiple people who had to go to Apple stores to try to do this process.

pixl97 3y ago
Ya I got bit switching to android when people started calling wondering what happened when I wouldn't respond to their texts.
tcmart14 3y ago
However, the same thing happened to me when I switched from my pixel 3a to an iPhone. I wasn't able to text from my iPhone for a week. I ended up contacting Verizon and they actually had their network engineers investigating. What they ended up discovering, and sent me a contact number for it, was that some how Google's RCS was still holding a lock on my number or something. So this isn't an exclusive Apple problem.

Repulsion9513 3y ago

> there has been no embrace or extend Embrace: include SMS Extend: add iMessage

threeseed 3y ago
That's not what the phrase means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...
- Repulsion9513 3y ago
  Embrace: include HTML Extend: add ActiveX Yeah, it is.
  - endemic 3y ago
    Could users still access functionality of pages with ActiveX content, albeit in a “degraded” state?
    - talldayo 3y ago
      Given that it never fully replaced HTML, yes.