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But I also understand why people read antisemitism into blank "colonialism" complaints about Israel. Whose "complaints", specifically? If it's in reference to

But I also understand why people read antisemitism into blank "colonialism" complaints about Israel. Whose "complaints", specifically? If it's in reference to what I've been saying, then you're going to have to either explain what you mean - or dial back the rather offensive insinuation that you're making above.

tptacek 3y ago
I'm happy to dial back any offensive insinuation I've made, but I'll have to ask you to tell me what it was first. I don't know you, you're just a message board abstraction to me, and if I've wrongly attributed some sentiment to you, I'll be glad to correct the record.
- racional 3y ago
  How about you answer my question first: Whose colonialism remarks ("complaints") were you referring to, specifically? Was it mine, or was it not?
  - tptacek 3y ago
    It was not your remark. So far as I know, I'm one of a very few people who have read your comment (just by dint of the age and depth of the thread). There is no mass mobilization over any supposed racism or antisemitism embedded in your specific statements, the way there is over the claimed "whiteness" or "Polishness" or "European-ness" of Israeli citizens. That is to say: I thought that in referring to common complaints in the discourse, I was clear that I was talking about a wider phenomenon, not this particular thread, but message boards are tricky and I could have done better. I'd have no trouble using direct language, describing a particular argument as "racist" or "antisemitic", if I felt that was what the argument was. But there's no reason you'd have known that, and I understand if I read as sort of cagily making that accusation without making it directly. Nope, not my intent, sorry to drive up your cortisol that way. I'll be more cautious going forward.
    - racional 3y ago
      Please do. I appreciate the thoughtful clarification.

tptacek 3y ago

I'm happy to dial back any offensive insinuation I've made, but I'll have to ask you to tell me what it was first. I don't know you, you're just a message board abstraction to me, and if I've wrongly attributed some sentiment to you, I'll be glad to correct the record.

racional 3y ago
How about you answer my question first: Whose colonialism remarks ("complaints") were you referring to, specifically? Was it mine, or was it not?
- tptacek 3y ago
  It was not your remark. So far as I know, I'm one of a very few people who have read your comment (just by dint of the age and depth of the thread). There is no mass mobilization over any supposed racism or antisemitism embedded in your specific statements, the way there is over the claimed "whiteness" or "Polishness" or "European-ness" of Israeli citizens. That is to say: I thought that in referring to common complaints in the discourse, I was clear that I was talking about a wider phenomenon, not this particular thread, but message boards are tricky and I could have done better. I'd have no trouble using direct language, describing a particular argument as "racist" or "antisemitic", if I felt that was what the argument was. But there's no reason you'd have known that, and I understand if I read as sort of cagily making that accusation without making it directly. Nope, not my intent, sorry to drive up your cortisol that way. I'll be more cautious going forward.
  - racional 3y ago
    Please do. I appreciate the thoughtful clarification.