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The cuts Uber, DoorDash etc take are astronomical- that’s the real issue. Thirty percent! Nobody filed lawsuits about pizza delivery in the past because you did

The cuts Uber, DoorDash etc take are astronomical- that’s the real issue. Thirty percent! Nobody filed lawsuits about pizza delivery in the past because you didn’t pay a 100% premium for delivery! I don’t do delivery services because for a family it is entirely unreasonable. I looked once- a $40 fast food order would be nearly $90 after inflated menu prices, fees, delivery, and tip.

bradleyjg 2y ago
It’s a very optional luxury. People getting mad about the price of milk is entirely different than people getting mad about the price of Rolexes.
- MOARDONGZPLZ 2y ago
  You’re equating having a meal delivered to luxury watches like Rolexes?
  - ericmay 2y ago
    In terms of optionality they’re pretty similar. “Getting food delivered” isn’t a right or basic necessity. It’s just an expensive convenience.
    - danaris 2y ago
      Tell me you don't know anyone disabled without saying you don't know anyone disabled. "Getting food delivered" is nearly a necessity for some people, and a massive boon for others (eg, people who work enough hours that there's little time to make food or eat out, while also having enough time to, y'know, spend time with the family, relax, etc). Just because delivery is purely a luxury for you doesn't mean it is for everyone.
      - bradleyjg 2y ago
        Highly non-central but sympathetic example designed to justify your outrage over the central, non-sympathetic case. Yup, seen that rhetorical trick before.
        danaris 2y ago
        And just so do uncaring and bigoted people the world over justify shutting disabled people out of so much of regular life. "Non-central", that's a new one. A very detached way of making sure you never have to consider the situation of people who aren't as lucky as you.
        bradleyjg 2y ago
        I’m sure that the one and only way for disabled people to participate in regular life is for you to save money on your order in sushi. How lucky for you—-cheap sushi and righteous indignation. What a delicious combo! We would also have accepted: it’s somehow necessary to save the planet or it’s a question of racial justice.
- ipython 2y ago
  It is optional, yes, but in the past, there were no internet based middlemen taking a 30% cut. You paid the local kid driving the pizza to your house, not some nameless software developer making 200k+ a year.
  - bradleyjg 2y ago
    Very few places delivered. The reason pizza is always the go-to example is because that was basically it.
    - D13Fd 2y ago
      Chinese food often delivers too.
    - Turing_Machine 2y ago
      And that was because pizza has a very, very high markup to begin with. From a few years ago: https://smallbusiness.chron.com/much-profit-margin-pizza-62139.html https://smallbusiness.chron.com/much-profit-margin-pizza-621... Cost to make a pepperoni and sausage pizza: $1.90. Average sale price: $14.00.
      - bradleyjg 2y ago
        How do you square this with dollar pizza wars in nyc destroying so many formerly good places because $1 isn’t enough for real cheese?
        Turing_Machine 2y ago
        Maybe the overhead is a lot higher there? I know rents are high in the Bay Area, but IIRC they're much higher in NYC? Could be wrong, but that would be my guess.

bradleyjg 2y ago

It’s a very optional luxury. People getting mad about the price of milk is entirely different than people getting mad about the price of Rolexes.

MOARDONGZPLZ 2y ago
You’re equating having a meal delivered to luxury watches like Rolexes?
- ericmay 2y ago
  In terms of optionality they’re pretty similar. “Getting food delivered” isn’t a right or basic necessity. It’s just an expensive convenience.
  - danaris 2y ago
    Tell me you don't know anyone disabled without saying you don't know anyone disabled. "Getting food delivered" is nearly a necessity for some people, and a massive boon for others (eg, people who work enough hours that there's little time to make food or eat out, while also having enough time to, y'know, spend time with the family, relax, etc). Just because delivery is purely a luxury for you doesn't mean it is for everyone.
    - bradleyjg 2y ago
      Highly non-central but sympathetic example designed to justify your outrage over the central, non-sympathetic case. Yup, seen that rhetorical trick before.
      - danaris 2y ago
        And just so do uncaring and bigoted people the world over justify shutting disabled people out of so much of regular life. "Non-central", that's a new one. A very detached way of making sure you never have to consider the situation of people who aren't as lucky as you.
        bradleyjg 2y ago
        I’m sure that the one and only way for disabled people to participate in regular life is for you to save money on your order in sushi. How lucky for you—-cheap sushi and righteous indignation. What a delicious combo! We would also have accepted: it’s somehow necessary to save the planet or it’s a question of racial justice.
ipython 2y ago
It is optional, yes, but in the past, there were no internet based middlemen taking a 30% cut. You paid the local kid driving the pizza to your house, not some nameless software developer making 200k+ a year.
- bradleyjg 2y ago
  Very few places delivered. The reason pizza is always the go-to example is because that was basically it.
  - D13Fd 2y ago
    Chinese food often delivers too.
  - Turing_Machine 2y ago
    And that was because pizza has a very, very high markup to begin with. From a few years ago: https://smallbusiness.chron.com/much-profit-margin-pizza-62139.html https://smallbusiness.chron.com/much-profit-margin-pizza-621... Cost to make a pepperoni and sausage pizza: $1.90. Average sale price: $14.00.
    - bradleyjg 2y ago
      How do you square this with dollar pizza wars in nyc destroying so many formerly good places because $1 isn’t enough for real cheese?
      - Turing_Machine 2y ago
        Maybe the overhead is a lot higher there? I know rents are high in the Bay Area, but IIRC they're much higher in NYC? Could be wrong, but that would be my guess.