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Ergonomics suggests most people should sit almost 2 meters away from a 40+ monitors. Not many people have desks with that depth so manufacturers probably don't

Ergonomics suggests most people should sit almost 2 meters away from a 40+ monitors. Not many people have desks with that depth so manufacturers probably don't sell a lot of these units (this lower availability).

swiftcoder 3y ago
I'm not sure what your calculation is based on, but it doesn't track with mine. A 40" 4K display should cross the "retina" threshold somewhere just before 1 metre (which is about the depth of my desk + keyboard tray). I get a lot of people don't love a monitor that fills so much of their field of view - but all those 40"+ curved widescreen monitors suggest that the market does exist.
- kstenerud 3y ago
  I don't understand; if the market exists, then why can't you find any?
  - swiftcoder 3y ago
    To be clear, I can find plenty of widescreen displays in this category - it's the 16:9 aspect ratio that seems to have dissappeared. Adn if needs be I'll probably make do with a widescreen monitor, but as most of the content I consume is optimised for 16:9, the edges feel like a bit of a waste (and the center is over-dense PPI if you opt for the full 2160 vertical resolution on these displays)
- geoah 3y ago
  I think that the key point here might be the curved part. Curved ultrawides mostly took over the market for large monitors cause they offered better ergonomics (curved + horizontal only head movement) and enough real estate.
- gtirloni 3y ago
  Many places you can search for but whatever works for you. One quick example: https://www.dell.com/en-us/lp/best-monitor-size-for-gaming https://www.dell.com/en-us/lp/best-monitor-size-for-gaming
  - swiftcoder 3y ago
    I'm really not sure what Dell (or whoever else is pushing this) is trying to accomplish. A standard 32" 4K monitor exceeds retina requirements at 2ft! At 5 feet most folks won't be able to tell the difference between that 4K monitor and a 1080p panel the same size - and could save themselves a lot of money + GPU power by opting for the 1080p.
    - gtirloni 3y ago
      If 2ft from a 40" monitor is fine for your neck, again, glad it works for you. But ergonomics is about avoiding strain and injuries not the minimum your retina needs to distinguish letters on a screen.
      - swiftcoder 3y ago
        The 2ft was in reference to the 32" monitor Dell's advice references. I sit roughly 3ft 6in away from the screen in my desk setup - which per a Television-oriented calculator is about optimal for a 40" panel. I'm honestly not sure why PC-oriented calculators are so much more conservative about field-of-view than THX is.
        teg4n_ 3y ago
        Probably because with PCs you typically want to be able to focus on any particular part of the screen without moving your head a lot while with a tv relying on more peripheral vision is normal and expected.
      - dr_kiszonka 3y ago
        I don't know much about monitor ergonomics. Is the principle here that it is better not to move your head?
kjkjadksj 3y ago
You ever see competitive csgo players? Some of them plant their nose to the screen.
mkl 3y ago
That's a strange recommendation. I wouldn't be able to read normal sized text on a 43 inch monitor from 2 metres away (halfway across the room!). Even 1 metre would be pushing it.

swiftcoder 3y ago

I'm not sure what your calculation is based on, but it doesn't track with mine. A 40" 4K display should cross the "retina" threshold somewhere just before 1 metre (which is about the depth of my desk + keyboard tray). I get a lot of people don't love a monitor that fills so much of their field of view - but all those 40"+ curved widescreen monitors suggest that the market does exist.

kstenerud 3y ago
I don't understand; if the market exists, then why can't you find any?
- swiftcoder 3y ago
  To be clear, I can find plenty of widescreen displays in this category - it's the 16:9 aspect ratio that seems to have dissappeared. Adn if needs be I'll probably make do with a widescreen monitor, but as most of the content I consume is optimised for 16:9, the edges feel like a bit of a waste (and the center is over-dense PPI if you opt for the full 2160 vertical resolution on these displays)
geoah 3y ago
I think that the key point here might be the curved part. Curved ultrawides mostly took over the market for large monitors cause they offered better ergonomics (curved + horizontal only head movement) and enough real estate.
gtirloni 3y ago
Many places you can search for but whatever works for you. One quick example: https://www.dell.com/en-us/lp/best-monitor-size-for-gaming https://www.dell.com/en-us/lp/best-monitor-size-for-gaming
- swiftcoder 3y ago
  I'm really not sure what Dell (or whoever else is pushing this) is trying to accomplish. A standard 32" 4K monitor exceeds retina requirements at 2ft! At 5 feet most folks won't be able to tell the difference between that 4K monitor and a 1080p panel the same size - and could save themselves a lot of money + GPU power by opting for the 1080p.
  - gtirloni 3y ago
    If 2ft from a 40" monitor is fine for your neck, again, glad it works for you. But ergonomics is about avoiding strain and injuries not the minimum your retina needs to distinguish letters on a screen.
    - swiftcoder 3y ago
      The 2ft was in reference to the 32" monitor Dell's advice references. I sit roughly 3ft 6in away from the screen in my desk setup - which per a Television-oriented calculator is about optimal for a 40" panel. I'm honestly not sure why PC-oriented calculators are so much more conservative about field-of-view than THX is.
      - teg4n_ 3y ago
        Probably because with PCs you typically want to be able to focus on any particular part of the screen without moving your head a lot while with a tv relying on more peripheral vision is normal and expected.
    - dr_kiszonka 3y ago
      I don't know much about monitor ergonomics. Is the principle here that it is better not to move your head?

kjkjadksj 3y ago

You ever see competitive csgo players? Some of them plant their nose to the screen.

mkl 3y ago

That's a strange recommendation. I wouldn't be able to read normal sized text on a 43 inch monitor from 2 metres away (halfway across the room!). Even 1 metre would be pushing it.