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What sucks about Lyme disease are the possible long term effects that an infection can have. Some people believe it's because of bacteria that stay hidden in yo

What sucks about Lyme disease are the possible long term effects that an infection can have. Some people believe it's because of bacteria that stay hidden in your body, but I think the more likely explanation is an auto-immune reaction. There is no treatment for these long term effects. (It's called "post treatment lyme disease syndrome").

b112 2y ago
Hmm. I know viruses definitely can hide in places, specifically muscle tissue but that sort of makes sense, as their reproductive strategy is to actually use cells to reproduce and such. But I guess there are all sorts of places for bacteria to hide out. One thing I've always wondered, is there were reports around 5+ years ago, of a "new organ" being discovered. This was some sort of layer of liquid below skin layers, which was never apparent after death. And it was only discovered as a result of improving capability to view our body while alive, in this case tech not really possible 30 years ago. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/meet-your-interstitium-a-newfound-organ/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/meet-your-interst... I guess my point here is, if bacteria were in the interstitium they could hide out in this organ, and it's massive if it exists. I've wondered about this, as I suspect some fungal infections actually live in the interstitium for fluid ingestion and to travel to alternate sites, but then actually poke through the skin for air/etc. It could give a better clue as to why some fungal infections are hard to fight.
- atombender 2y ago
  Adding to this, bacteria can form biofilms that are undetectable with blood tests. This is thought to be one way that streptococcal bacteria such as _S. pyogenes_ can stay around in the body for a long time, perhaps indefinitely [1]. These biofilms become microcolonies of bacteria (in places such as in the tonsils) that can lie dormant and reinfect in cycles. People who experience recurring strep infections (i.e. strep throat or strep tonsillitis) are often advised to get a tonsillectomy. Additionally, strep is thought to be capable of inducing autoimmunity through a mechanism called molecular mimicry [2], and this mechanism been implicated in several diseases, including rheumatic fever and psoriasis. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK333419/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK333419/ [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6684244/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6684244/
pseudosaid 2y ago
it actually hides along the cell walls between movements. My mom had Lyme and I was born with it. at age 12 i saw on live video the Lyme in action. I got rid of Lyme via eastern medicine and a liquid oxygen shot daily. Lyme hates oxygen rich environments
- DoktorDelta 2y ago
  My partner is dealing with the same thing. Could you elaborate on the eastern medicine you used to treat your case?
- newaccount74 2y ago
  Well... there's also "chronic lyme disease", which is most likely pseudo-scientific bullshit. If you "saw lyme in action", chances are your mom took you to a quack doctor.

b112 2y ago

Hmm. I know viruses definitely can hide in places, specifically muscle tissue but that sort of makes sense, as their reproductive strategy is to actually use cells to reproduce and such. But I guess there are all sorts of places for bacteria to hide out. One thing I've always wondered, is there were reports around 5+ years ago, of a "new organ" being discovered. This was some sort of layer of liquid below skin layers, which was never apparent after death. And it was only discovered as a result of improving capability to view our body while alive, in this case tech not really possible 30 years ago. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/meet-your-interstitium-a-newfound-organ/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/meet-your-interst... I guess my point here is, if bacteria were in the interstitium they could hide out in this organ, and it's massive if it exists. I've wondered about this, as I suspect some fungal infections actually live in the interstitium for fluid ingestion and to travel to alternate sites, but then actually poke through the skin for air/etc. It could give a better clue as to why some fungal infections are hard to fight.

atombender 2y ago
Adding to this, bacteria can form biofilms that are undetectable with blood tests. This is thought to be one way that streptococcal bacteria such as _S. pyogenes_ can stay around in the body for a long time, perhaps indefinitely [1]. These biofilms become microcolonies of bacteria (in places such as in the tonsils) that can lie dormant and reinfect in cycles. People who experience recurring strep infections (i.e. strep throat or strep tonsillitis) are often advised to get a tonsillectomy. Additionally, strep is thought to be capable of inducing autoimmunity through a mechanism called molecular mimicry [2], and this mechanism been implicated in several diseases, including rheumatic fever and psoriasis. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK333419/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK333419/ [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6684244/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6684244/

pseudosaid 2y ago

it actually hides along the cell walls between movements. My mom had Lyme and I was born with it. at age 12 i saw on live video the Lyme in action. I got rid of Lyme via eastern medicine and a liquid oxygen shot daily. Lyme hates oxygen rich environments

DoktorDelta 2y ago
My partner is dealing with the same thing. Could you elaborate on the eastern medicine you used to treat your case?
newaccount74 2y ago
Well... there's also "chronic lyme disease", which is most likely pseudo-scientific bullshit. If you "saw lyme in action", chances are your mom took you to a quack doctor.