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> For the past decade Apple’s product lineup has pretty much remained the same You seem to have forgotten the M1 Mac, which was released in 2020. It was follow
by jdlshore 2y ago
> For the past decade Apple’s product lineup has pretty much remained the same
You seem to have forgotten the M1 Mac, which was released in 2020. It was followed by the complete overhaul and revitalization of the Mac lineup, all to critical and popular acclaim.
- yerwenber 2y ago> And now they’re way behind. I’d say “way” is a stretch, and the technologies that largely are making it such could be argued were popularized by ggml which was written originally for the M1 platform.
- archeantus 2y agoSee “faster, lighter, etc” :D
- nickburns 2y agoif by "complete overhaul and revitalization of the Mac lineup" you mean took their own chip production in-house, i agree. most revolutionary thing Apple has done since the iPhone.
- Apocryphon 2y agoNot sure how credible Snazzy Lab's claims are, but supposedly Apple Silicon might be hitting diminishing returns, at least for now- Apple's Silicon Magic Is Over: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOlXmv9EiPo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOlXmv9EiPo
- kingkongjaffa 2y agoThey still power the best and most battery efficient laptops on the market, despite diminishing returns.
- arvinsim 2y agoWhoever is in that market is already served by the current offerings. I doubt anyone would be scrambling to get the M4 if that it is just mote of the same.
- shepherdjerred 2y agoIntel made due with "more of the same" for years. Though, I do hope that Apple continues to make improvements.
- vbezhenar 2y agoI'd prefer them to keep using Intel, if you ask me. M1 brings to me nothing but issues with different architecture. So much that I had to switch to Linux because can't take it anymore. Don't really feel it faster than Intel, TBH. May be better regarding battery, but who cares, definitely not me, working from AC outlet 24/7.
- theshrike79 2y agoCan I ask what issues did you have after the initial hassle of people recompiling for the M-series? For me the insane battery life/computing power ratio massively outweighs any possible advantages for staying with Intel
- vbezhenar 2y agoFor example I can't run Windows XP in a VM with acceptable performance.
- drawfloat 2y agoI can run Black mesa at 60FPS inside a Windows 11 VM on my Macbook M2. That suggests performance is not actually that bad?
- vbezhenar 2y agoProbably because your Windows 11 VM runs ARM version of Windows and I need x86 version of Windows.
- INGSOCIALITE 2y agoi was in the same situation with the switch to silicon. I have some obscure industry software that i use on a rare basis that only runs on x86 - i just bought a cheap thinkpad (x220 i think) and have XP on there. silicon (m2) is worth its weight in gold to me for the battery life and functionality.
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- ffgjgf1 2y ago> all to critical and popular acclaim. Perhaps but after a spike in 2020-21 their Mac sales are about where they were back in the Intel days. If you take into account the inflation since ~2017 M1 hasn’t really been that extraordinarily successful and their past couple of quarters were the worst in the last 10 years or so.
- _heimdall 2y agoI think that depends on how you're defining product lineup here. Apple doesn't sell the M1 chip itself, so really the product lineup remained unchanged other than shipping with a new processor. The watch is the most recent new product I can think of from Apple and that was 9 years ago.
- pjmlp 2y agoWhile true, we have seen this movie before with PowerPC and Intel.
- asadotzler 2y agoYou seem to have forgotten that "Dodge swapped out the Chrysler engine for a Mitsubishi engine" isn't much of an innovation claim. Tim Cook is a bean counter. He's done nothing at Apple except add a couple of iPhone accessories and optimize the supply chain, which is all the M1 Mac was, a slightly optimized Steve Jobs creation.