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Quora Is Totalitairian

1 points by desbest 14y ago

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s2r2 14y ago
Nobody is hindered to leave, right?
- desbest 14y ago
  I've had several people leave the website, after I left. I never asked them to, they did so of their own accord. More are leaving because I have, as time goes on.
lmm 14y ago
"I dislike bratty teenagers as it is and don't care: in what field exactly is a preteen an expert, and why should they be allowed to troll me as Zach Silverstein did? There are millions of websites for brats; let him and his cohort play, fling doodoo and cast snark at the other 9,999,999+" Sounds like a clear violation of the "be nice" rule to me. I don't know enough about Quora to know what kind of tone is normal there, but I would be perfectly happy with a community that banned anyone who spoke like that.
- desbest 14y ago
  That still doesn't give Quora a right to go round censoring things and deleting her account without her permission. There's no excuse. But what about the others who got banned in totalitarian rule as well? http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b7a5cbb9e10f85e63644a73fc3544bab http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b7a5cbb9e10f85e63644a73... He's already banned for that tweet within 3 hours. Are they going to delete his account next? Am I going to get banned for posting this? Don't you think she's already complained to moderation nicely, to no avail, hence posting that answer?
  - lmm 14y ago
    >That still doesn't give Quora a right to go round censoring things and deleting her account without her permission. There's no excuse. Huh? Quora have a rule, she violated it, they deleted her account. That sounds like how it's meant to work.
    - desbest 14y ago
      The Be Nice rule is the most ambiguous rule on the planet. Interpret it as you wish. And no, they're not supposed to delete your account after you're banned. That's out of place, not their protocol.
    - XiaoPing 14y ago
      Don't be a jerk.
      - codezero 14y ago
        I like Wikipedia's version better: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_a_dick http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_a_dick
mooism2 14y ago
This sort of hyperbole is unhelpful. North Korea is totalitarian. Nazi Germany was totalitarian. The Soviet Union was totalitarian. Criticising the government could get you executed, or imprisoned in a far away forced labour camp for a long time. Quora is a website. They can, er, ban you from using their website. That might be a stupid, not very nice action for them to carry out, but it's not totalitarian.
- desbest 14y ago
  The hyperbole is helpful. First they ban accounts and sometimes delete them to make the person disappear without a trace, and secondly they prohibit you from asking why certain people got banned. This censorship prevents people from acknowledging that certain people existed. Criticising Quora on Quora will get you banned without prior warning, and in some instances have your account deleted without a trace. And when you're banned or disappeared, nobody is allowed ask why that happened, as those questions get censored. Think of it like this when you criticise Quora. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Voroshilov%2C_Molotov%2C_Stalin%2C_with_Nikolai_Yezhov.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Voroshilo... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/The_Commissar_Vanishes_2.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/The_Commi... And then being censored when you ask why the person force disappeared.
  - XiaoPing 14y ago
    They also libel you after you have been banned because you cannot respond.
    - codezero 14y ago
      Content providers are not subject to the same laws of libel as, for example, newspapers. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubby,_Inc._v._CompuServe_Inc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubby,_Inc._v._CompuServe_Inc. And the subsequent Section 230 of the CDA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communications_Decency_Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communicatio...
XiaoPing 14y ago
There is something crazy going on at Quora. It seems hellbent on driving off all of its best posters and keeping the mediocrities.
desbest 14y ago
New post with comment threads to look at. This post has since been deleted. http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1380/peterirelandgotbannedco.png http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1380/peterirelandgotbannedc...

1 points by desbest 14y ago

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s2r2 14y ago

Nobody is hindered to leave, right?

desbest 14y ago
I've had several people leave the website, after I left. I never asked them to, they did so of their own accord. More are leaving because I have, as time goes on.

lmm 14y ago

"I dislike bratty teenagers as it is and don't care: in what field exactly is a preteen an expert, and why should they be allowed to troll me as Zach Silverstein did? There are millions of websites for brats; let him and his cohort play, fling doodoo and cast snark at the other 9,999,999+" Sounds like a clear violation of the "be nice" rule to me. I don't know enough about Quora to know what kind of tone is normal there, but I would be perfectly happy with a community that banned anyone who spoke like that.

desbest 14y ago
That still doesn't give Quora a right to go round censoring things and deleting her account without her permission. There's no excuse. But what about the others who got banned in totalitarian rule as well? http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b7a5cbb9e10f85e63644a73fc3544bab http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b7a5cbb9e10f85e63644a73... He's already banned for that tweet within 3 hours. Are they going to delete his account next? Am I going to get banned for posting this? Don't you think she's already complained to moderation nicely, to no avail, hence posting that answer?
- lmm 14y ago
  >That still doesn't give Quora a right to go round censoring things and deleting her account without her permission. There's no excuse. Huh? Quora have a rule, she violated it, they deleted her account. That sounds like how it's meant to work.
  - desbest 14y ago
    The Be Nice rule is the most ambiguous rule on the planet. Interpret it as you wish. And no, they're not supposed to delete your account after you're banned. That's out of place, not their protocol.
  - XiaoPing 14y ago
    Don't be a jerk.
    - codezero 14y ago
      I like Wikipedia's version better: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_a_dick http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_a_dick

mooism2 14y ago

This sort of hyperbole is unhelpful. North Korea is totalitarian. Nazi Germany was totalitarian. The Soviet Union was totalitarian. Criticising the government could get you executed, or imprisoned in a far away forced labour camp for a long time. Quora is a website. They can, er, ban you from using their website. That might be a stupid, not very nice action for them to carry out, but it's not totalitarian.

desbest 14y ago
The hyperbole is helpful. First they ban accounts and sometimes delete them to make the person disappear without a trace, and secondly they prohibit you from asking why certain people got banned. This censorship prevents people from acknowledging that certain people existed. Criticising Quora on Quora will get you banned without prior warning, and in some instances have your account deleted without a trace. And when you're banned or disappeared, nobody is allowed ask why that happened, as those questions get censored. Think of it like this when you criticise Quora. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Voroshilov%2C_Molotov%2C_Stalin%2C_with_Nikolai_Yezhov.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Voroshilo... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/The_Commissar_Vanishes_2.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/The_Commi... And then being censored when you ask why the person force disappeared.
- XiaoPing 14y ago
  They also libel you after you have been banned because you cannot respond.
  - codezero 14y ago
    Content providers are not subject to the same laws of libel as, for example, newspapers. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubby,_Inc._v._CompuServe_Inc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubby,_Inc._v._CompuServe_Inc. And the subsequent Section 230 of the CDA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communications_Decency_Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communicatio...

XiaoPing 14y ago

There is something crazy going on at Quora. It seems hellbent on driving off all of its best posters and keeping the mediocrities.

desbest 14y ago

New post with comment threads to look at. This post has since been deleted. http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1380/peterirelandgotbannedco.png http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1380/peterirelandgotbannedc...