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Decades? Are you still talking about British Columbia, Canada?

mitthrowaway2 3y ago
The grandparent might be referring to various degrees of decriminalization, not just the more recent experiment of decriminalizing possession of 2.5 grams of drugs and the allowance of drug consumption in public spaces that was backed by the BC court injunction last year. For example, Insite (a supervised drug injection site which opened 21 years ago) could be considered an early step in decriminalization, including acquiring a legal exemption allowing it to operate.
- kazinator 3y ago
  Insite can almost be seen as a medical clinic. A hospital OR is a "supervised drug injection site" where you can be legally knocked out with propofol and fentanyl.
  - mitthrowaway2 3y ago
    Yes, in the same sense that a street drug user could almost be seen as an amateur anaesthesiologist subjecting themselves to a controlled dosage of opioids for medical purposes. But despite that, street drug use and supervised injection at Insite would both have been criminal offenses if not for changes and exemptions made by legal system to allow them. That's precisely what "decriminalization" is, and a large part of this is the idea that drug abuse should be seen as a medical matter rather than a criminal one.
  - spxneo 3y ago
    medical clinic is an interesting choice of words. One might think there is a licensed medical doctor prescribing hard drugs without fear of prosecution, free from law enforcement. Chinatown residents would certainly disagree whether it has been beneficial for them. Yaletown residents certainly disagree
nickff 3y ago
Insite opened over twenty years ago: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/insite-20-year-anniversary-1.6966605 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/insite-20-ye... Insite may not have been a 'de jure' decriminalization, but it was definitely a site where the government acknowledged the laws were not to be followed as written, and was a 'de facto' decriminalization.
TacticalCoder 3y ago
> Decades? Are you still talking about British Columbia, Canada? Ain't that the real scary thing though? That's it didn't take decades but mere years for things to turn to shit? To me real evilness is the supposedly compassionate ones, who not only refuse to see evil but also encourage it.
- scotty79 3y ago
  "evil", "good" are terrible words. Religious trickery to fend of questions like "what?", "why?". Tell what you object to or what you support and why and then you can have a conversation and possibly arrive at some solutions or at least some knowledge.

The grandparent might be referring to various degrees of decriminalization, not just the more recent experiment of decriminalizing possession of 2.5 grams of drugs and the allowance of drug consumption in public spaces that was backed by the BC court injunction last year. For example, Insite (a supervised drug injection site which opened 21 years ago) could be considered an early step in decriminalization, including acquiring a legal exemption allowing it to operate.

kazinator 3y ago
Insite can almost be seen as a medical clinic. A hospital OR is a "supervised drug injection site" where you can be legally knocked out with propofol and fentanyl.
- mitthrowaway2 3y ago
  Yes, in the same sense that a street drug user could almost be seen as an amateur anaesthesiologist subjecting themselves to a controlled dosage of opioids for medical purposes. But despite that, street drug use and supervised injection at Insite would both have been criminal offenses if not for changes and exemptions made by legal system to allow them. That's precisely what "decriminalization" is, and a large part of this is the idea that drug abuse should be seen as a medical matter rather than a criminal one.
- spxneo 3y ago
  medical clinic is an interesting choice of words. One might think there is a licensed medical doctor prescribing hard drugs without fear of prosecution, free from law enforcement. Chinatown residents would certainly disagree whether it has been beneficial for them. Yaletown residents certainly disagree

nickff 3y ago

Insite opened over twenty years ago: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/insite-20-year-anniversary-1.6966605 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/insite-20-ye... Insite may not have been a 'de jure' decriminalization, but it was definitely a site where the government acknowledged the laws were not to be followed as written, and was a 'de facto' decriminalization.

TacticalCoder 3y ago

> Decades? Are you still talking about British Columbia, Canada? Ain't that the real scary thing though? That's it didn't take decades but mere years for things to turn to shit? To me real evilness is the supposedly compassionate ones, who not only refuse to see evil but also encourage it.

scotty79 3y ago
"evil", "good" are terrible words. Religious trickery to fend of questions like "what?", "why?". Tell what you object to or what you support and why and then you can have a conversation and possibly arrive at some solutions or at least some knowledge.