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Based on what I've seen, various forms of censorship and suppression are often employed in such cases, rather than outright "flaming" or other discussion-based
by VancouverMan 2y ago
Based on what I've seen, various forms of censorship and suppression are often employed in such cases, rather than outright "flaming" or other discussion-based approaches.
It really depends on where and how the discussion is taking place, and what censorship methods the website/platform/medium involved offers.
Sometimes users are just outright banned or shadow-banned, if those happen to be options.
Sometimes forum threads, bug reports, or comments are deleted.
Sometimes the discussion remains accessible, but is stifled in some way. This includes closing/locking forum threads or bug reports, or otherwise severely limiting participation in such discussions to a very small and isolated group of people. If down-voting/reporting systems are present, sometimes they're used to limit the visibility or prominence of such discussion.
- cogman10 2y agoOk, do you have a concrete example of this?
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- VancouverMan 2y agoI haven't rigorously tracked all of the instances I've seen of this happening over the years, but I've tried to quickly find some more prominent examples for you. This bug report, for example, has various "This comment has been minimized.", "rust-lang deleted a comment from ...", "rust-lang locked and limited conversation to collaborators" interference: https://github.com/rust-lang/team/pull/671 https://github.com/rust-lang/team/pull/671 A Reddit thread discussing the situation from that bug report mentioned above has numerous "[removed]" comments and down-voted comments: https://old.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/qzme1z/moderation_team_resignation/ https://old.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/qzme1z/moderation_tea... When Rust is discussed here, it's common enough for reasonable and relevant Rust-related comments to be voted down, sometimes severely. These threads have some examples I quickly found via a search of high-activity Rust submissions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24334731&p=2 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24334731&p=2 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24343867 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24343867 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23802674 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23802674 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26812047&p=2 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26812047&p=2 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29488336 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29488336 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11340100 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11340100 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24337001 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24337001 Here's an example of a recent submission on this site for an article very reasonably and thoroughly questioning Rust. It got some attention, and now it's currently marked as "[flagged]": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40091427 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40091427 Keep in mind that strict "moderating" (ie, censoring) has been an integral part of the Rust community's identity for many years now via its Code of Conduct and Moderation Team - https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/code-of-conduct https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/code-of-conduct https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/moderation https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/moderation
- cogman10 2y agoThank you very much for digging these up. I don't have anything more to add these are good examples of bad behavior.