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• lotsofpulp 2y ago
  The source material on page 9 and 10 claims a subpoena is necessary: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/09/02/us/hemisphere-project.html?_r=0 https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013... Therefore, I am confused whether or not a warrant is needed. If the phone networks were straight up selling call records, then surely no law enforcement agency would bother with warrants.
  • whaleofatw2022 2y ago
    Buying the records could cause issues potentially in court. The selling of 'evidence' can cause various conflicts of interest. That said I would be completely unsurprised if they were used for 'parallel discovery' purposes.
  • throwaway81523 2y ago
    Call records have never needed a warrant (lookup "pen registers"). Call contents (i.e. wiretaps) have in principle always needed a warrant, modulo many exceptions. These days though, call records seem to be for sale to anyone who wants them, whether or not that is legal.
    • gopher_space 2y ago
      A private investigator could fill us in, but if you look at the different personal data services you'll see a lot of "check this box to agree that you have a valid legal reason to pay us $75 for your ex's info" type setups. Pirate Code law.
  • singleshot_ 2y ago
    Subscriber data: court order. Communications: warrant. Metadata: it depends. (Not a general rule but a useful heuristic).