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> It's almost like capitalism isn't actually good and you shouldn't want to live in the US Strong words from a FAANG employee. Does he think there's another e

> It's almost like capitalism isn't actually good and you shouldn't want to live in the US Strong words from a FAANG employee. Does he think there's another economic system which would give him the same extraordinary compensation package?

LeafItAlone 2y ago
The poster lives in NL so not sure what to make of these statements.
- jsiepkes 2y ago
  The name may be Dutch but are you sure he lives there? Apparently (according to one of his own comments) the new team is located in Munich.
  - LeafItAlone 2y ago
    One of the posts has > as do I, in .nl
hnfong 2y ago
The context is sparse, but it looks like Google laid off the Python team based in the US. The poster was not in US, so maybe that's why they're not laid off. The quote you mentioned was a sarcastic comment on the US-specific layoffs, presumably.
fargle 2y ago
agree. i can tell it was a bad day for the author and it sucks. but it's irritating to sit there and blame the exact system and company that gave him the exceptional job and pay in the first place. everyone who works in FAANG, if you are drawing an enormous salary and bonus, compared to the average guy, i hope you realize the how fortunate you are. i hope you are putting away, saving, investing, at least 1/3 or 1/2 of it. when and if this happens after a few years, unlike the average guy, you can simply choose to retire or take some time off and travel rather than the normal option of loosing your home and being completely ruined.
- zem 2y ago
  some of us are on work visas, so "take some time off" would also mean "wind up your current life and leave the country"
  - fuzzfactor 2y ago
    >"wind up your current life and leave the country" Isn't that what so many people do in their own country in order to come to the US on a work visa to begin with?
    - zem 2y ago
      yes, and trust me, it makes a big difference when it's voluntary and you are in full control the time frame.
  - fargle 2y ago
    while i'm sympathetic, it still means you had a great deal going. if/when it ends you shouldn't get pissed off you got the opportunity in the first place - a visa isn't permanent. to be clear - what i was reacting to was the author's idea that he should reject capitalism and/or start a trade union, after having been a very, very, lucky player of the capitalism game indeed. it pisses me off when people making N multiples of 6 figure incomes start forgetting how lucky they are and how much they personally benefited from that exact system. a laid off googler's worst day is many, many times better than the average guys daily life. in this country, let alone somewhere else.
    - UncleMeat 2y ago
      A visa is not permanent, but it might as well be for Indian and Chinese citizens. The green card lottery can easily take decades. You could have gone to college, got married, had kids, bought a house, and maybe even see your kids graduate college and have kids of their own before you get guaranteed residency in the US. "Oh you should be happy you had a good thing going" is not something I'd find especially comforting if I was told I needed to rapidly uproot my entire life and leave a country I've spent decades in.
cynicalsecurity 2y ago
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- soganess 2y ago
  Ad hominem with just a tinge of that sweet sweet latent homophobia? Why? And that hypo... what exactly is the fear bringing all this on so viscerally... is a long defunct soviet union still the starring Freddy of folk's dreams? Disclaimer: I grew up in the USSR, it stank big ups. I live in the USA, it also stinks big ups. Sometimes for similar and sometimes for different reasons. Let's hope Fukuyama was wrong and we'll eventually come up with something better.
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LeafItAlone 2y ago

The poster lives in NL so not sure what to make of these statements.

jsiepkes 2y ago
The name may be Dutch but are you sure he lives there? Apparently (according to one of his own comments) the new team is located in Munich.
- LeafItAlone 2y ago
  One of the posts has > as do I, in .nl

hnfong 2y ago

The context is sparse, but it looks like Google laid off the Python team based in the US. The poster was not in US, so maybe that's why they're not laid off. The quote you mentioned was a sarcastic comment on the US-specific layoffs, presumably.

fargle 2y ago

agree. i can tell it was a bad day for the author and it sucks. but it's irritating to sit there and blame the exact system and company that gave him the exceptional job and pay in the first place. everyone who works in FAANG, if you are drawing an enormous salary and bonus, compared to the average guy, i hope you realize the how fortunate you are. i hope you are putting away, saving, investing, at least 1/3 or 1/2 of it. when and if this happens after a few years, unlike the average guy, you can simply choose to retire or take some time off and travel rather than the normal option of loosing your home and being completely ruined.

zem 2y ago
some of us are on work visas, so "take some time off" would also mean "wind up your current life and leave the country"
- fuzzfactor 2y ago
  >"wind up your current life and leave the country" Isn't that what so many people do in their own country in order to come to the US on a work visa to begin with?
  - zem 2y ago
    yes, and trust me, it makes a big difference when it's voluntary and you are in full control the time frame.
- fargle 2y ago
  while i'm sympathetic, it still means you had a great deal going. if/when it ends you shouldn't get pissed off you got the opportunity in the first place - a visa isn't permanent. to be clear - what i was reacting to was the author's idea that he should reject capitalism and/or start a trade union, after having been a very, very, lucky player of the capitalism game indeed. it pisses me off when people making N multiples of 6 figure incomes start forgetting how lucky they are and how much they personally benefited from that exact system. a laid off googler's worst day is many, many times better than the average guys daily life. in this country, let alone somewhere else.
  - UncleMeat 2y ago
    A visa is not permanent, but it might as well be for Indian and Chinese citizens. The green card lottery can easily take decades. You could have gone to college, got married, had kids, bought a house, and maybe even see your kids graduate college and have kids of their own before you get guaranteed residency in the US. "Oh you should be happy you had a good thing going" is not something I'd find especially comforting if I was told I needed to rapidly uproot my entire life and leave a country I've spent decades in.

cynicalsecurity 2y ago

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soganess 2y ago
Ad hominem with just a tinge of that sweet sweet latent homophobia? Why? And that hypo... what exactly is the fear bringing all this on so viscerally... is a long defunct soviet union still the starring Freddy of folk's dreams? Disclaimer: I grew up in the USSR, it stank big ups. I live in the USA, it also stinks big ups. Sometimes for similar and sometimes for different reasons. Let's hope Fukuyama was wrong and we'll eventually come up with something better.
- cynicalsecurity 2y ago
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