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perhaps the problem is you're trying to fit computer in the wrong level of abstraction or projecting your position wrt to it incorrectly. E.g. a computer may o
by random3 2y ago
perhaps the problem is you're trying to fit computer in the wrong level of abstraction or projecting your position wrt to it incorrectly.
E.g. a computer may or may not be programmable for processes that live inside the computer.
This said, the compute abstraction is a logical gadget. Logical in the sense that it aims for consistency at a mininmum.
A logical gadget is a computer, by Curry-Howard correspondence.
This is a broad enough framework to explain why what you're debating against is the case: given that philosophy bridges language to logic and provies the framework for all sciences, seeing nature as compute is like saying there's a logic to nature.
So yes, everything is compute. Everything more detailed that that, turing machines, digits, whether it's it from bit or not is a separate matter of debate that may or may not be required.
- Al0neStar 2y ago> everything is compute. Isnt this the problem OP is referring to? If everything is compute then no useful distinction can be made.
- random3 2y agoThe utility is relative to the purpose. If everything is compute that you don't know how to program, and that's all you want to do - sure that's useless. If you what you want is a powerful analysis framework, that's gold. If you know how to abstract your way forward with that framework that too. So arguing that the distinction is useless because it's universal, is like saying logic is useless because it's universal.