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I was of the impression that when talking about stupid things people do to themselves, it did not specifically need to be said that I am talking about anabolic

I was of the impression that when talking about stupid things people do to themselves, it did not specifically need to be said that I am talking about anabolic steroid abuse without a prescription, for the purpose of performance enhancement. No need to strawman my comment

DoreenMichele 2y ago
I'm absolutely not trying to strawman your comment. There is no clear cut, bright line between life and health. The body doesn't care if you took steroids with a prescription or without one. As noted in another comment, Arnold Schwarzenegger has a heart condition. I have read it might have killed him at a young age if he hadn't been a devoted fitness nut. He admits to using steroids. He's still alive.
- moooo99 2y ago
  > The body doesn't care if you took steroids with a prescription or without one. The body doesn't, but the person who prescribes the medication does. With any medication there are tradeoffs to be made. A doctor is usually able to make a more qualified assessment of said tradeoffs than the average patient. After all, the tradeoffs of taking anabolic steroids are plenty, especially when taken over longer periods of time. And not to mention the fact that the stuff people source illegaly is rarely chemically as safe as the stuff used as medication. > He's still alive. He is, many other high profile bodybuilders aren't. While that's not a medically meaningful statistic, these are the people whose aesthetics young men strive for.
  - DoreenMichele 2y ago
    I'm someone with a serious medical condition where the official medical position boils down to "Quit your bitching about how you want real help and stop bothering us with ridiculous demands to do something effective. Politely and quietly die your slow, torturous death while revering and appreciating the monsters not really caring about your welfare." So my view of modern medicine is a tad more jaded than yours and I guess this is where we agree to disagree.

DoreenMichele 2y ago

I'm absolutely not trying to strawman your comment. There is no clear cut, bright line between life and health. The body doesn't care if you took steroids with a prescription or without one. As noted in another comment, Arnold Schwarzenegger has a heart condition. I have read it might have killed him at a young age if he hadn't been a devoted fitness nut. He admits to using steroids. He's still alive.

moooo99 2y ago
> The body doesn't care if you took steroids with a prescription or without one. The body doesn't, but the person who prescribes the medication does. With any medication there are tradeoffs to be made. A doctor is usually able to make a more qualified assessment of said tradeoffs than the average patient. After all, the tradeoffs of taking anabolic steroids are plenty, especially when taken over longer periods of time. And not to mention the fact that the stuff people source illegaly is rarely chemically as safe as the stuff used as medication. > He's still alive. He is, many other high profile bodybuilders aren't. While that's not a medically meaningful statistic, these are the people whose aesthetics young men strive for.
- DoreenMichele 2y ago
  I'm someone with a serious medical condition where the official medical position boils down to "Quit your bitching about how you want real help and stop bothering us with ridiculous demands to do something effective. Politely and quietly die your slow, torturous death while revering and appreciating the monsters not really caring about your welfare." So my view of modern medicine is a tad more jaded than yours and I guess this is where we agree to disagree.