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I'm a Yahoo. Reviewing the ticket now and things are being taken care of.

by drgath 14y ago

ktizo 14y ago
Cue sound of black helicopters being dispatched to visit nikcub. (only kidding, for one thing Yahoo's black helicopters don't make any sound)
- gojomo 14y ago
  And, Yahoo's black helicopters are purple.
  - drgath 14y ago
    And, they yodel when they take off.
    - phillco 14y ago
      This effect can be simulated by going to yahoo.com and clicking the period in the logo.
      - ktizo 14y ago
        That isn't a simulation. When you click the period it actually launches a black helicopter. It isn't actually meant to do this, but the guy who wrote the code left a while back and nobody knows how to fix it, or even where the helicopters are being sent. However there are unconfirmed reports of an interesting pile of scrap metal growing at the bottom of Jerry Yang's garden.
    - alanh 14y ago
      You’ve been around about as long as me — why are you participating in /r/HN? (That is… why are we talking about this like we’re on Reddit?)
      - deleted 14y ago
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      - res0nat0r 14y ago
        Thank you...I I've voted appropriately as I thought just the same thing (but I am in a catch-22 here as I'm replying to your comment :)
      - gojomo 14y ago
        And I've been around twice as long as you! I also understand the reasons for the humor taboo. But there's a sadness about the Yahoo situation that invites joking as a coping mechanism. If we don't laugh, we'll have to cry. Or rant. And speaking of rants: plenty of upvoted, 'serious' comments about this incident are just variants of "HUH-hah, look at Yahoo's latest screwup!" Those can be even worse for reasoned discourse than a few silly quips in one tangent. But HN smiles upon the hyper-critical and mock-aghast sort of rhetorical competition.
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- astrodust 14y ago
  I just hope nobody goes to jail for "hacking".
- damncabbage 14y ago
  Doesn't help that the pilots were laid off last month. (Edit: Hey now, downvoters; I'm an ex-Yahoo! layoff target. What else do I need to do before I can crack jokes like this? :D )
  - res0nat0r 14y ago
    Needs more /r/technology
    - res0nat0r 14y ago
      Sadly being downvoted...for not being Reddit worthy on HN. How ironic.
rbanffy 14y ago
What is the plan? I'm asking because, one day, someone here will leak the wrong key. I already have enough problems with legal on opensourcing our software (we built a very cool CMS that runs on Node.js and MongoDB we'd love to share) and I may need to come up with some creative answer fast.
- batista 14y ago
  >we built a very cool CMS that runs on Node.js and MongoDB we'd love to share CMS using Mongo & Node? Sounds like a fad-fest about to be turned a disaster...
  - rbanffy 14y ago
    Why would you say that? It works well enough here. Of course, exploring new ideas always creates some rework due to bad decisions (and we had a couple of them along with the good ones).
  - batista 14y ago
    >Why would you say that? It works well enough here. Well, both projects are rather new and changing. So not a very stable base to base a business on. Node.js is best suited for long-running, evented type web apps (games, chat, interaction etc), so a CMS would not be a good fit. Mongo is also known to lose data, and needs several (3 at least) servers to be somewhat stable with this. A CMS is also not particularly read or write heavy, so a standard DB would fit even better. I assume the data already have some specific form, so the free-form (schema-less) of Mongo doesn't buy much (and you have to replicate some relational-es on top of Mongo anyway, if you want to avoid inefficient queries returning tons of unneeded data with the response that happen to be on the same level in the "tree"). In a CMS you also have a power-law distribution of read articles, or even worse, with the top page stuff getting the most hits, and older pages being statistical noise. So some caching should provide very good speed with very little memory needs. (Funny aside/rant: once I've implemented a custom CMS for a large bank in my country, with plain ole Java and DB2. The bank people had fallen for some IBM crap, and wanted the backend to be Domino, which, at the time (2003) was, well, let's say, inadequate. Our team implemented a CMS on top of Domino, and, as it naturally was slow as molasses, I convinced them to let us rewrite it in a sane way, which I did by myself in 1/5 the time it took to build the BS Domino version (about 2-3 months). It even had fancy things like being able to have them just upload an Excel file and automatically populating currency rates and stuff from it, with proper Decimal support, fail-rollback, etc). Hah, I also used Lucene for FTS, which was at version < 1.2 at the time IIRC.
rgrove 14y ago
If the Paranoids or PR found out you're commenting publicly about this and portraying yourself as an official representative, they'd have your ass. Be careful.

I'm a Yahoo. Reviewing the ticket now and things are being taken care of.

by drgath 14y ago

I'm a Yahoo. Reviewing the ticket now and things are being taken care of.

ktizo 14y ago

Cue sound of black helicopters being dispatched to visit nikcub. (only kidding, for one thing Yahoo's black helicopters don't make any sound)

gojomo 14y ago
And, Yahoo's black helicopters are purple.
- drgath 14y ago
  And, they yodel when they take off.
  - phillco 14y ago
    This effect can be simulated by going to yahoo.com and clicking the period in the logo.
    - ktizo 14y ago
      That isn't a simulation. When you click the period it actually launches a black helicopter. It isn't actually meant to do this, but the guy who wrote the code left a while back and nobody knows how to fix it, or even where the helicopters are being sent. However there are unconfirmed reports of an interesting pile of scrap metal growing at the bottom of Jerry Yang's garden.
  - alanh 14y ago
    You’ve been around about as long as me — why are you participating in /r/HN? (That is… why are we talking about this like we’re on Reddit?)
    - deleted 14y ago
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    - res0nat0r 14y ago
      Thank you...I I've voted appropriately as I thought just the same thing (but I am in a catch-22 here as I'm replying to your comment :)
    - gojomo 14y ago
      And I've been around twice as long as you! I also understand the reasons for the humor taboo. But there's a sadness about the Yahoo situation that invites joking as a coping mechanism. If we don't laugh, we'll have to cry. Or rant. And speaking of rants: plenty of upvoted, 'serious' comments about this incident are just variants of "HUH-hah, look at Yahoo's latest screwup!" Those can be even worse for reasoned discourse than a few silly quips in one tangent. But HN smiles upon the hyper-critical and mock-aghast sort of rhetorical competition.
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astrodust 14y ago
I just hope nobody goes to jail for "hacking".
damncabbage 14y ago
Doesn't help that the pilots were laid off last month. (Edit: Hey now, downvoters; I'm an ex-Yahoo! layoff target. What else do I need to do before I can crack jokes like this? :D )
- res0nat0r 14y ago
  Needs more /r/technology
  - res0nat0r 14y ago
    Sadly being downvoted...for not being Reddit worthy on HN. How ironic.

rbanffy 14y ago

What is the plan? I'm asking because, one day, someone here will leak the wrong key. I already have enough problems with legal on opensourcing our software (we built a very cool CMS that runs on Node.js and MongoDB we'd love to share) and I may need to come up with some creative answer fast.

batista 14y ago
>we built a very cool CMS that runs on Node.js and MongoDB we'd love to share CMS using Mongo & Node? Sounds like a fad-fest about to be turned a disaster...
- rbanffy 14y ago
  Why would you say that? It works well enough here. Of course, exploring new ideas always creates some rework due to bad decisions (and we had a couple of them along with the good ones).
- batista 14y ago
  >Why would you say that? It works well enough here. Well, both projects are rather new and changing. So not a very stable base to base a business on. Node.js is best suited for long-running, evented type web apps (games, chat, interaction etc), so a CMS would not be a good fit. Mongo is also known to lose data, and needs several (3 at least) servers to be somewhat stable with this. A CMS is also not particularly read or write heavy, so a standard DB would fit even better. I assume the data already have some specific form, so the free-form (schema-less) of Mongo doesn't buy much (and you have to replicate some relational-es on top of Mongo anyway, if you want to avoid inefficient queries returning tons of unneeded data with the response that happen to be on the same level in the "tree"). In a CMS you also have a power-law distribution of read articles, or even worse, with the top page stuff getting the most hits, and older pages being statistical noise. So some caching should provide very good speed with very little memory needs. (Funny aside/rant: once I've implemented a custom CMS for a large bank in my country, with plain ole Java and DB2. The bank people had fallen for some IBM crap, and wanted the backend to be Domino, which, at the time (2003) was, well, let's say, inadequate. Our team implemented a CMS on top of Domino, and, as it naturally was slow as molasses, I convinced them to let us rewrite it in a sane way, which I did by myself in 1/5 the time it took to build the BS Domino version (about 2-3 months). It even had fancy things like being able to have them just upload an Excel file and automatically populating currency rates and stuff from it, with proper Decimal support, fail-rollback, etc). Hah, I also used Lucene for FTS, which was at version < 1.2 at the time IIRC.

rgrove 14y ago

If the Paranoids or PR found out you're commenting publicly about this and portraying yourself as an official representative, they'd have your ass. Be careful.