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Coda 2 available for download

32 points by philip1209 14y ago

alexobenauer 14y ago
It's 50% off through Friday ($49 USD). Also, it sounds like they're offering free upgrades for recent Coda 1 buyers, which is nice.
- keva161 14y ago
  Only if you bought Coda 1 between (2012-04-10 to 2012-05-24).
slantyyz 14y ago
As much as I like Coda, it's a little annoying (as a customer) that the only way to get support is via e-mail or Twitter. Just about every other software company out there hosts discussion boards that let their users at least get help from one another.
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saeedjabbar 14y ago
There's no free trial? Coda 2 is not worth $99... $50 is where it should stay at. It's pretty much a step up from iWeb than Coda 1.
- barumrho 14y ago
  There is 7-day trial.
  - incongruity 14y ago
    And the very first thing it prompts you to do (besides joining their mailing list) is crippled and reserved for paying users only (importing transmit favorites)... Seriously, a short eval period + in your face crippleware that only hurts your most-loyal users... the ones who have already bought transmit? That's a stumble out of the gate, IMHO.
barumrho 14y ago
What exactly is the use case for Coda? It doesn't seem like it offers any benefit for dynamic websites, but then it doesn't have wysiwyg editing either. I am curious why it is popular.
- slantyyz 14y ago
  Probably because it has an attractive UI that makes it a little more approachable (subjectively) for web developers than the likes of Textmate. It's not as if Transmit really brings that much to the FTP world, but people seem to really love it.
  - clobber 14y ago
    Transmit doesn't seem that outstanding to me either. I've also found that FTP clients on Mac are missing a nice feature found on many Windows clients: multi-part (accelerated) transfers.
- willtheperson 14y ago
  I've always wondered the same thing. It seems like Panic is getting a pass just for being Panic. When there's something like Sublime Text 2 out there for $60, I'm surprised people are so attracted to these all-in-one apps that aren't as extendible and typically load files slower.
  - slantyyz 14y ago
    >> It seems like Panic is getting a pass just for being Panic I think this is very true, and it applies to their entire product line. It still boggles my mind how popular Transmit is. Having said that, extensibility isn't for everyone. I have licenses for Coda, Textmate and Sublime, and I like them all. Personally, I do like the one-window approach that Coda takes, but that's a ultimately a taste thing.
  - clobber 14y ago
    It's also worth checking out Chocolat: http://chocolatapp.com/ http://chocolatapp.com/ I think it's on par with Textmate and currently $34
pooriaazimi 14y ago
I was downvoted (unjustly) when I mentioned App Sandboxing the other day (here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4004833 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4004833). Apple will force sandbox effective June 1st, so they can't provide updates through MAS version if Coda 2 is not fully sandboxed. They haven't said anywhere whether that's the case or not. The support page says: Apple often changes the conditions for Mac App Store eligibility, and it's possible we may have to modify or remove features from the Mac App Store version in the future. It's our intent to keep them as close to identical as Apple will let us. ----------- So, they might be forced to remove some features from the MAS version, in that case, it'd be better to get it directly from panic.com. On the other hand, MAS version sports iCloud support, so if it's fully sandboxed, it's better to get it from MAS. We can wait a few weeks to see which on is the case, but in that case, we'll lose the $50 discount. I'm sure Panic is aware of all these issues and doubts, but I can't think of an honest reason why they don't address these issues. I love Panic and their softwares; that's why I hate to see that they're apparently playing with their customers.
- M4v3R 14y ago
  Maybe you could just email them and ask?
  - pooriaazimi 14y ago
    I don't do fron-end web design, and I wouldn't buy Coda even if it was 5 dollars (I have no use for it) - if I were to buy it, I would certainly email them and ask about it. But I use several other Panic products and like them very much (Prompt for iPad is great for example). So it's not something that I actually care about in the slightest. I just wanted to warn my fellow HNers to consider these points before purchasing.
  - burriko 14y ago
    Somebody asked them on twitter. The response isn't particularly reassuring. https://twitter.com/stevenf/status/204675630363721728 https://twitter.com/stevenf/status/204675630363721728
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enigmabomb 14y ago
This software is awesome, our whole team uses this software everyday. The use case is simple: centralized dev, terminal and preview. It's insanely powerful.
creativityhurts 14y ago
I just bought Diet Coda just for that one rare situation when I'll need to edit some html or change file permissions from bed. It's really nicely done, just like every Panic product but I don't see myself using it very often especially since my workflow involves LESS & CoffeScript and versioning vs. editing straight on the production server.
- slantyyz 14y ago
  I use Coda with Less and Coffeescript (with the Rails asset pipeline) and it is fine. Sure the svn feature (in v1) was useless for Github, but Gitbox solves that problem quite easily.
  - creativityhurts 14y ago
    I was talking about Diet Coda, the iPad version.
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- pacomerh 14y ago
  I downloaded the demo and I can see the remote file tree on my side bar, and click on files or expand folders. I just clicked on the files icon on the right panel after I opened a remote connection and I can see it just fine.
  - Udo 14y ago
    You're right, I take it all back - I was being stupid and didn't see the globe icon. Thanks!
nodesocket 14y ago
Upgraded to 2, when I run, it crashes, have to force quit. Solid $49 dollars spent. Fail!
- pupppet 14y ago
  Yep, same deal. Endlessly blinks in the dock but never opens.
josscrowcroft 14y ago
Using the demo now - I love it, but it's crashed twice in 20 minutes... Guess it's early days.
- josscrowcroft 14y ago
  Make that thrice, seems to crash every time I drag an icon from the sidebar->home panel to the sidebar quick nav menu (edit: only when dragging to rightmost position).
speg 14y ago
Nice, the quick open now searches the whole file path. This was much needed! Before when i looked for "__init__.py" I got them all, now I can do "api __ini" and I've got the right one. Also loving the git support. After a first half hour, I am impressed. Everything I wanted in Coda2 seems to be here, and the polish is what we've come to expect from Panic.

32 points by philip1209 14y ago

It's 50% off through Friday ($49 USD). Also, it sounds like they're offering free upgrades for recent Coda 1 buyers, which is nice.

keva161 14y ago
Only if you bought Coda 1 between (2012-04-10 to 2012-05-24).

slantyyz 14y ago

As much as I like Coda, it's a little annoying (as a customer) that the only way to get support is via e-mail or Twitter. Just about every other software company out there hosts discussion boards that let their users at least get help from one another.

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saeedjabbar 14y ago

There's no free trial? Coda 2 is not worth $99... $50 is where it should stay at. It's pretty much a step up from iWeb than Coda 1.

barumrho 14y ago
There is 7-day trial.
- incongruity 14y ago
  And the very first thing it prompts you to do (besides joining their mailing list) is crippled and reserved for paying users only (importing transmit favorites)... Seriously, a short eval period + in your face crippleware that only hurts your most-loyal users... the ones who have already bought transmit? That's a stumble out of the gate, IMHO.

barumrho 14y ago

What exactly is the use case for Coda? It doesn't seem like it offers any benefit for dynamic websites, but then it doesn't have wysiwyg editing either. I am curious why it is popular.

slantyyz 14y ago
Probably because it has an attractive UI that makes it a little more approachable (subjectively) for web developers than the likes of Textmate. It's not as if Transmit really brings that much to the FTP world, but people seem to really love it.
- clobber 14y ago
  Transmit doesn't seem that outstanding to me either. I've also found that FTP clients on Mac are missing a nice feature found on many Windows clients: multi-part (accelerated) transfers.
willtheperson 14y ago
I've always wondered the same thing. It seems like Panic is getting a pass just for being Panic. When there's something like Sublime Text 2 out there for $60, I'm surprised people are so attracted to these all-in-one apps that aren't as extendible and typically load files slower.
- slantyyz 14y ago
  >> It seems like Panic is getting a pass just for being Panic I think this is very true, and it applies to their entire product line. It still boggles my mind how popular Transmit is. Having said that, extensibility isn't for everyone. I have licenses for Coda, Textmate and Sublime, and I like them all. Personally, I do like the one-window approach that Coda takes, but that's a ultimately a taste thing.
- clobber 14y ago
  It's also worth checking out Chocolat: http://chocolatapp.com/ http://chocolatapp.com/ I think it's on par with Textmate and currently $34

pooriaazimi 14y ago

I was downvoted (unjustly) when I mentioned App Sandboxing the other day (here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4004833 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4004833). Apple will force sandbox effective June 1st, so they can't provide updates through MAS version if Coda 2 is not fully sandboxed. They haven't said anywhere whether that's the case or not. The support page says: Apple often changes the conditions for Mac App Store eligibility, and it's possible we may have to modify or remove features from the Mac App Store version in the future. It's our intent to keep them as close to identical as Apple will let us. ----------- So, they might be forced to remove some features from the MAS version, in that case, it'd be better to get it directly from panic.com. On the other hand, MAS version sports iCloud support, so if it's fully sandboxed, it's better to get it from MAS. We can wait a few weeks to see which on is the case, but in that case, we'll lose the $50 discount. I'm sure Panic is aware of all these issues and doubts, but I can't think of an honest reason why they don't address these issues. I love Panic and their softwares; that's why I hate to see that they're apparently playing with their customers.

M4v3R 14y ago
Maybe you could just email them and ask?
- pooriaazimi 14y ago
  I don't do fron-end web design, and I wouldn't buy Coda even if it was 5 dollars (I have no use for it) - if I were to buy it, I would certainly email them and ask about it. But I use several other Panic products and like them very much (Prompt for iPad is great for example). So it's not something that I actually care about in the slightest. I just wanted to warn my fellow HNers to consider these points before purchasing.
- burriko 14y ago
  Somebody asked them on twitter. The response isn't particularly reassuring. https://twitter.com/stevenf/status/204675630363721728 https://twitter.com/stevenf/status/204675630363721728
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enigmabomb 14y ago

This software is awesome, our whole team uses this software everyday. The use case is simple: centralized dev, terminal and preview. It's insanely powerful.

creativityhurts 14y ago

I just bought Diet Coda just for that one rare situation when I'll need to edit some html or change file permissions from bed. It's really nicely done, just like every Panic product but I don't see myself using it very often especially since my workflow involves LESS & CoffeScript and versioning vs. editing straight on the production server.

slantyyz 14y ago
I use Coda with Less and Coffeescript (with the Rails asset pipeline) and it is fine. Sure the svn feature (in v1) was useless for Github, but Gitbox solves that problem quite easily.
- creativityhurts 14y ago
  I was talking about Diet Coda, the iPad version.

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pacomerh 14y ago
I downloaded the demo and I can see the remote file tree on my side bar, and click on files or expand folders. I just clicked on the files icon on the right panel after I opened a remote connection and I can see it just fine.
- Udo 14y ago
  You're right, I take it all back - I was being stupid and didn't see the globe icon. Thanks!

nodesocket 14y ago

Upgraded to 2, when I run, it crashes, have to force quit. Solid $49 dollars spent. Fail!

pupppet 14y ago
Yep, same deal. Endlessly blinks in the dock but never opens.

josscrowcroft 14y ago

Using the demo now - I love it, but it's crashed twice in 20 minutes... Guess it's early days.

josscrowcroft 14y ago
Make that thrice, seems to crash every time I drag an icon from the sidebar->home panel to the sidebar quick nav menu (edit: only when dragging to rightmost position).

speg 14y ago

Nice, the quick open now searches the whole file path. This was much needed! Before when i looked for "__init__.py" I got them all, now I can do "api __ini" and I've got the right one. Also loving the git support. After a first half hour, I am impressed. Everything I wanted in Coda2 seems to be here, and the polish is what we've come to expect from Panic.