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As a description of human behavior and how humans are local optimization machines I think you are spot on. This is where I disagree with you: …rightfully noon

As a description of human behavior and how humans are local optimization machines I think you are spot on. This is where I disagree with you: …rightfully noone is willing… I don’t believe this is right in the moral sense or in a global optimization sense. The world’s people are getting richer and as the world’s population begins to live more and more like Americans the world becomes exponentially more polluted. This will eventually affect us all. The world is becoming a toxic shithole. The right thing to do is to make changes now. But for the reasons you stated this isn’t going to happen. As a species we are local optimization machines and we don’t seek to find the global optimum.

Dalewyn 3y ago
>the world becomes exponentially more polluted. ... The world is becoming a toxic shithole. I would strongly advise easing off on your intake of mainstream news media, the real world is quite pleasant out here.
- skhunted 3y ago
  I use Foxnews.com. Who should I use? Isn’t it a mathematical fact that if Americans consume exponentially more resources than others then as more people gain wealth commensurate with Americans then exponentially more resources will be consumed? Or do you think Americans are especially greedy in this respect? I had not considered that possibility. https://www.foxnews.com/health/forever-chemicals-found-us-drinking-water-map-shows-hot-spots-highest-levels https://www.foxnews.com/health/forever-chemicals-found-us-dr... https://www.foxnews.com/world/india-new-delhi-air-pollution-health https://www.foxnews.com/world/india-new-delhi-air-pollution-... https://www.foxnews.com/health/contaminated-beach-water-could-make-swimmers-sick-new-pollution-report-several-troubling-trends https://www.foxnews.com/health/contaminated-beach-water-coul... https://www.foxnews.com/world/global-air-pollution-persists-leading-health-risk-hitting-asia-africa-hardest https://www.foxnews.com/world/global-air-pollution-persists-...
  - Dalewyn 3y ago
    >Who should I use? None. Go out there and enjoy life, life is way too short to be spending it listening to so-called journalists peddling anger and fear.
    - skhunted 3y ago
      It’s interesting to hear someone use the phrase don’t listen to main stream media think that Foxnews, Newsmax, Alex Jones, etc are all cranks who can’t be trusted. Given your implied self professed ignorance you must occasionally wonder if your very limited experience exploring the world is indicative of its true state. Ignorance is bliss so continue to stop watching Foxnews, Newsmax, and other like minded sources. EDIT: Looking at your past comments it’s clear you do consume news! What a surprise given your comment.
      - Dalewyn 3y ago
        I consider whatever news I do see mainly as a form of entertainment (FSVO entertainment) with no credence given. >Given your implied self professed ignorance you must occasionally wonder if your very limited experience exploring the world is indicative of its true state. I can tell you the world is nowhere near as shitty as the powers that be would like you to believe.

Dalewyn 3y ago

>the world becomes exponentially more polluted. ... The world is becoming a toxic shithole. I would strongly advise easing off on your intake of mainstream news media, the real world is quite pleasant out here.

skhunted 3y ago
I use Foxnews.com. Who should I use? Isn’t it a mathematical fact that if Americans consume exponentially more resources than others then as more people gain wealth commensurate with Americans then exponentially more resources will be consumed? Or do you think Americans are especially greedy in this respect? I had not considered that possibility. https://www.foxnews.com/health/forever-chemicals-found-us-drinking-water-map-shows-hot-spots-highest-levels https://www.foxnews.com/health/forever-chemicals-found-us-dr... https://www.foxnews.com/world/india-new-delhi-air-pollution-health https://www.foxnews.com/world/india-new-delhi-air-pollution-... https://www.foxnews.com/health/contaminated-beach-water-could-make-swimmers-sick-new-pollution-report-several-troubling-trends https://www.foxnews.com/health/contaminated-beach-water-coul... https://www.foxnews.com/world/global-air-pollution-persists-leading-health-risk-hitting-asia-africa-hardest https://www.foxnews.com/world/global-air-pollution-persists-...
- Dalewyn 3y ago
  >Who should I use? None. Go out there and enjoy life, life is way too short to be spending it listening to so-called journalists peddling anger and fear.
  - skhunted 3y ago
    It’s interesting to hear someone use the phrase don’t listen to main stream media think that Foxnews, Newsmax, Alex Jones, etc are all cranks who can’t be trusted. Given your implied self professed ignorance you must occasionally wonder if your very limited experience exploring the world is indicative of its true state. Ignorance is bliss so continue to stop watching Foxnews, Newsmax, and other like minded sources. EDIT: Looking at your past comments it’s clear you do consume news! What a surprise given your comment.
    - Dalewyn 3y ago
      I consider whatever news I do see mainly as a form of entertainment (FSVO entertainment) with no credence given. >Given your implied self professed ignorance you must occasionally wonder if your very limited experience exploring the world is indicative of its true state. I can tell you the world is nowhere near as shitty as the powers that be would like you to believe.