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Does anyone know if consuming milk containing viral material confers any level of immunity?

by j-bos 3y ago

bayindirh 3y ago
Probably not. Unless you have ulcers or open wounds in your mouth/trachea, virus will be digested and destroyed in stomach acid.
- iwontberude 3y ago
  So, you are saying that maybe if there was some sort of an injection.
  - objektif 3y ago
    What happens if I inject milk into my veins? Do I get high?
    - optimalsolver 3y ago
      You get brie.
  - bayindirh 3y ago
    No, absolutely not. Plus, don't run experiments on your own body.
- optimalsolver 3y ago
  >virus will be digested and destroyed in stomach acid So how does food poisoning happen?
  - andyferris 3y ago
    Generally by bacteria or their byproducts (toxins). Viruses are relatively smaller and more fragile.
  - zensavona 3y ago
    With bacteria
- bamboozled 3y ago
  Won't the virus be killed by pasteurization which most milk is?
  - drewcon 3y ago
    Yes. And they confirmed that it has been in these samples.
  - hbossy 3y ago
    Virus doesn't need to active for vaccine to work.
- LinuxBender 3y ago
  Would gingivitis [1] or other periodontal diseases count? [1] - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9526927/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9526927/
- refurb 3y ago
  Not really. There are several examples of oral vaccines.
  - snakeyjake 3y ago
    Even oral vaccines containing live viruses see the virus being destroyed in minutes by stomach acid. Rapid inactivation of rotaviruses by exposure to acid buffer or acidic gastric juice: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2999315/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2999315/ The annihilation of the virus and the absorption of all of the wreckage is what gives humans immunity without actually becoming infected. Generally speaking, the only viruses that make it past the stomach do so in people who already have an illness or are taking medications that raise stomach pH. Many "stomach viruses" that are transmitted orally actually infect the body at the pharynx and then make their way down to the intestines where they go wild.
    - refurb 2y ago
      > The annihilation of the virus and the absorption of all of the wreckage is what gives humans immunity without actually becoming infected. Do you have a source for that claim? "Wreckage" would be sufficiently different from the live virus to not elicit an immune response. The live polio vaccine infects the person with an attenuated virus. The target of the polio virus is intestinal epithelial cells. There are hundreds of diseases that infect the lower digestive tract (both viral and bacterial) that clearly result from these infectious agents passing through the stomach unaltered. It may be true that many viruses are destroyed by stomach acid, but you only need a few unaltered viruses to make it through. Studies show that viruses bound to surfaces can survive stomach acid. Viruses can be bound to food or other particles which can protect them from stomach contents. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300918 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019567012... "FCV survived in synthetic gastric fluid at pH values as low as 2.5 and in some cases as low as 1.5 for at least 30 min when associated with certain materials."
SkyPuncher 3y ago
Only if you get sick from it

Does anyone know if consuming milk containing viral material confers any level of immunity?

by j-bos 3y ago

Does anyone know if consuming milk containing viral material confers any level of immunity?

Probably not. Unless you have ulcers or open wounds in your mouth/trachea, virus will be digested and destroyed in stomach acid.

iwontberude 3y ago
So, you are saying that maybe if there was some sort of an injection.
- objektif 3y ago
  What happens if I inject milk into my veins? Do I get high?
  - optimalsolver 3y ago
    You get brie.
- bayindirh 3y ago
  No, absolutely not. Plus, don't run experiments on your own body.
optimalsolver 3y ago
>virus will be digested and destroyed in stomach acid So how does food poisoning happen?
- andyferris 3y ago
  Generally by bacteria or their byproducts (toxins). Viruses are relatively smaller and more fragile.
- zensavona 3y ago
  With bacteria
bamboozled 3y ago
Won't the virus be killed by pasteurization which most milk is?
- drewcon 3y ago
  Yes. And they confirmed that it has been in these samples.
- hbossy 3y ago
  Virus doesn't need to active for vaccine to work.
LinuxBender 3y ago
Would gingivitis [1] or other periodontal diseases count? [1] - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9526927/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9526927/
refurb 3y ago
Not really. There are several examples of oral vaccines.
- snakeyjake 3y ago
  Even oral vaccines containing live viruses see the virus being destroyed in minutes by stomach acid. Rapid inactivation of rotaviruses by exposure to acid buffer or acidic gastric juice: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2999315/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2999315/ The annihilation of the virus and the absorption of all of the wreckage is what gives humans immunity without actually becoming infected. Generally speaking, the only viruses that make it past the stomach do so in people who already have an illness or are taking medications that raise stomach pH. Many "stomach viruses" that are transmitted orally actually infect the body at the pharynx and then make their way down to the intestines where they go wild.
  - refurb 2y ago
    > The annihilation of the virus and the absorption of all of the wreckage is what gives humans immunity without actually becoming infected. Do you have a source for that claim? "Wreckage" would be sufficiently different from the live virus to not elicit an immune response. The live polio vaccine infects the person with an attenuated virus. The target of the polio virus is intestinal epithelial cells. There are hundreds of diseases that infect the lower digestive tract (both viral and bacterial) that clearly result from these infectious agents passing through the stomach unaltered. It may be true that many viruses are destroyed by stomach acid, but you only need a few unaltered viruses to make it through. Studies show that viruses bound to surfaces can survive stomach acid. Viruses can be bound to food or other particles which can protect them from stomach contents. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300918 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019567012... "FCV survived in synthetic gastric fluid at pH values as low as 2.5 and in some cases as low as 1.5 for at least 30 min when associated with certain materials."

SkyPuncher 3y ago

Only if you get sick from it