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Three times I tried switching from Windows to Mac and each time I bounced because of how janky basic window ergonomics were. I shouldn't have to buy single-doll

Three times I tried switching from Windows to Mac and each time I bounced because of how janky basic window ergonomics were. I shouldn't have to buy single-dollar-programs to fix core OS functionality.

jemmyw 2y ago
I wrote a hammerspoon script that moves my windows and the dock when I plug in to monitors. That's free, I agree we shouldn't have to have such a complex solution though. But I would bet that if Apple did provide a built in solution it would break the more complex solutions.
- wasteduniverse 2y ago
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- happymellon 2y ago
  You make it sound like they give a damn about breaking 3rd party solutions at the moment.
stevage 2y ago
Huh. After years of mar I tried to go back to windows. I did it for 2 years but I'm so much happier on Mac again. I did kind of like the windows thg of dragging a window to the top to maximise, but that stuff is easy to replace with an app or two. General OS slowness and instability and clunky design not so much.
- monsieurbanana 2y ago
  > General OS slowness and instability and clunky design not so much. I can't tell whether you're talking about Windows or Mac here
  - fx1994 2y ago
    Windows are not bad if you have control over them. But in corp env, you don't and the force updates, AV, FW, extra AV scans and other monitoring shit so even with 32 GB of RAM, fast SSD and latest i7 PC would start to act like it's Win98. That's why I switch to Mac M2, zero corporate shit and total control so it works great.
    - hu3 2y ago
      About FW and AV scans, doesn't macOS phone home when you execute programs? I remember some problem with programs hanging and/or slow to start because the phoning home functionality was having issues. edit: yep, it does https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/391379/does-macos-phone-home-to-apples-servers-before-running-an-app-for-the-first-tim https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/391379/does-macos-...
      - Rinzler89 2y ago
        It does phone home yes, but people pretend it doesn't and only Windows is evil when it does so. At least it doesn't have ads.
        NBJack 2y ago
        Not yet. But rest assured, they are just getting started. I know of one theory that suggests ATT was really just Apple preparing to launch its own Ads network. https://www.wired.com/story/apple-is-an-ad-company-now/ https://www.wired.com/story/apple-is-an-ad-company-now/
    - sofixa 2y ago
      > That's why I switch to Mac M2, zero corporate shit and total control so it works great. Unless you work at an org that has all this stuff, like pretty much any org at scale that has compliance or security requirements. My work-issued MacBook has an AV that slows opening everything, forces updates and restarts and all that jazz.
- rcarmo 2y ago
  If you miss some specific Windows behaviour, I might have listed an app that implements it: https://taoofmac.com/space/apps/window_managers https://taoofmac.com/space/apps/window_managers (I switch between Windows and Mac throughout the day, so window tiling and Fancy Zones were things I missed)
- mmcnl 2y ago
  Resizing a window in macOS feels so janky. The fancy gestures are all very smooth, but the basic stuff seems like it's forgotten.

jemmyw 2y ago

I wrote a hammerspoon script that moves my windows and the dock when I plug in to monitors. That's free, I agree we shouldn't have to have such a complex solution though. But I would bet that if Apple did provide a built in solution it would break the more complex solutions.

wasteduniverse 2y ago
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happymellon 2y ago
You make it sound like they give a damn about breaking 3rd party solutions at the moment.

stevage 2y ago

Huh. After years of mar I tried to go back to windows. I did it for 2 years but I'm so much happier on Mac again. I did kind of like the windows thg of dragging a window to the top to maximise, but that stuff is easy to replace with an app or two. General OS slowness and instability and clunky design not so much.

monsieurbanana 2y ago
> General OS slowness and instability and clunky design not so much. I can't tell whether you're talking about Windows or Mac here
- fx1994 2y ago
  Windows are not bad if you have control over them. But in corp env, you don't and the force updates, AV, FW, extra AV scans and other monitoring shit so even with 32 GB of RAM, fast SSD and latest i7 PC would start to act like it's Win98. That's why I switch to Mac M2, zero corporate shit and total control so it works great.
  - hu3 2y ago
    About FW and AV scans, doesn't macOS phone home when you execute programs? I remember some problem with programs hanging and/or slow to start because the phoning home functionality was having issues. edit: yep, it does https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/391379/does-macos-phone-home-to-apples-servers-before-running-an-app-for-the-first-tim https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/391379/does-macos-...
    - Rinzler89 2y ago
      It does phone home yes, but people pretend it doesn't and only Windows is evil when it does so. At least it doesn't have ads.
      - NBJack 2y ago
        Not yet. But rest assured, they are just getting started. I know of one theory that suggests ATT was really just Apple preparing to launch its own Ads network. https://www.wired.com/story/apple-is-an-ad-company-now/ https://www.wired.com/story/apple-is-an-ad-company-now/
  - sofixa 2y ago
    > That's why I switch to Mac M2, zero corporate shit and total control so it works great. Unless you work at an org that has all this stuff, like pretty much any org at scale that has compliance or security requirements. My work-issued MacBook has an AV that slows opening everything, forces updates and restarts and all that jazz.
rcarmo 2y ago
If you miss some specific Windows behaviour, I might have listed an app that implements it: https://taoofmac.com/space/apps/window_managers https://taoofmac.com/space/apps/window_managers (I switch between Windows and Mac throughout the day, so window tiling and Fancy Zones were things I missed)
mmcnl 2y ago
Resizing a window in macOS feels so janky. The fancy gestures are all very smooth, but the basic stuff seems like it's forgotten.