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I’ve had none of the issues OP complains about. Windows do open on the wrong screen, but I keep the same windows open for months at a time.

by geon 2y ago

jwells89 2y ago
I don’t experience most of them either. Windows do get shuffled occasionally but it’s not that frequent. My setup is a Studio Display and now quite old Thunderbolt Display. The Dock issue for example isn’t a problem for me because I have mouse sensitivity on high and take advantage of Fitts’ law. Tossing my cursor to the left with a certain velocity lands it on my left side dock on the secondary monitor reliably. My use of the second display is primarily sets of “secondary” apps divided into desktops. This setup keeps everything sorted and makes manual management of windows mostly unnecessary… just switch to the desktop with the windows you’re looking for. I could probably get used to a single large display or ultrawide, but I’d gravely miss that mix and match aspect of virtual desktops on multiple monitors. It’s so much nicer than futzing around with tiling, splits, etc.
philjohn 2y ago
Yes - I noticed that the OP mentions they reboot a lot. If you just reboot for OS updates, and use sleep the rest of the time, most (all?) of these problems go away. Same for closing apps - with modern OS's keeping an app open is likely not an issue as it'll not consume resources when not in focus, unless it's running a heap of background tasks.
- nottorp 2y ago
  OP has PTSD from wintel computers i guess. People move to macs and don't expect sleep to work, expect to need a mouse for their laptops etc. I could contradict the entire article with my personal experiences if I took the time. Been using multiple monitor Macs (and Linux before them) for ages. > When the Dock is on the side, it only appears on the display that is farthest to that side. Having to move the mouse across multiple displays just to get to the Dock is untenably slow and awkward. Who uses the dock? What's wrong with Cmd+Tab and starting applications from Cmd+space? The dock is where I look for that app I only use every 3 weeks but I still keep open... > If – in a typical horizontal arrangement – you give the two displays equal priority in placement, you end up with one to your left and one to your right, with a very irritating gap between them in the one place it’s natural to look – straight ahead of you. > Whatever it is, I just cannot get comfortable moving between displays frequently. Look at those items. It never ever occured to me to place two monitors symmetrically with the space between them exactly in front of my eyes. You have a primary and a secondary, the primary is in front of you and the secondary is on a side, and not parallel to the primary so you keep the same distance. I'd rephrase it as "dual monitors sucks for me, and I happen to be on a Mac so I blame the Mac". I think the OP is the target audience for those ultrawides...
  - OJFord 2y ago
    > Who uses the dock? What's wrong with Right. Shame it can't be turned off then, nevermind just another user error right?
    - nottorp 2y ago
      You missed the part where i said i can contradict everythin based on my personal experience, which is personal? :) Btw, even if i rarely use it, i keep it on the bottom of my primary (the one in front of me) monitor. And not set to auto hide.
    - hu3 2y ago
      You're holding it wrong.
    - mckn1ght 2y ago
      It effectively can be turned off with auto-hide, but yes, it would be nice to reclaim the system resources by quitting it like any other application.
  - wasteduniverse 2y ago
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  - baq 2y ago
    > OP has PTSD from wintel computers i guess. People move to macs and don't expect sleep to work, expect to need a mouse for their laptops etc. Say for yourself. My mac becomes unusuable after a week. I reboot at least every Monday, sometimes more. I used to do it more but looks like one of the updates fixed WiFi not being able to connect to anything and no amount of clicking or command line resetting would help.
    - nottorp 2y ago
      Personal experiences. I'm on my 4th apple laptop since 2013, I never rebooted them except for OS updates and I never had any problems with wifi or lag. Besides I started a windows development contract this month which immediately reminded me why i pay the apple tax...
OskarS 2y ago
Yeah, I was a little bit baffled when I saw the post. I move between two different multi-screen setups with different arrangements (at home and at work), plus using my laptop alone. I haven't done like a study or whatever if it remembers my window positions, but I've never been annoyed with how macOS handles it, it's classic Apple "just works".

I’ve had none of the issues OP complains about. Windows do open on the wrong screen, but I keep the same windows open for months at a time.

by geon 2y ago

I’ve had none of the issues OP complains about. Windows do open on the wrong screen, but I keep the same windows open for months at a time.

jwells89 2y ago

I don’t experience most of them either. Windows do get shuffled occasionally but it’s not that frequent. My setup is a Studio Display and now quite old Thunderbolt Display. The Dock issue for example isn’t a problem for me because I have mouse sensitivity on high and take advantage of Fitts’ law. Tossing my cursor to the left with a certain velocity lands it on my left side dock on the secondary monitor reliably. My use of the second display is primarily sets of “secondary” apps divided into desktops. This setup keeps everything sorted and makes manual management of windows mostly unnecessary… just switch to the desktop with the windows you’re looking for. I could probably get used to a single large display or ultrawide, but I’d gravely miss that mix and match aspect of virtual desktops on multiple monitors. It’s so much nicer than futzing around with tiling, splits, etc.

philjohn 2y ago

Yes - I noticed that the OP mentions they reboot a lot. If you just reboot for OS updates, and use sleep the rest of the time, most (all?) of these problems go away. Same for closing apps - with modern OS's keeping an app open is likely not an issue as it'll not consume resources when not in focus, unless it's running a heap of background tasks.

nottorp 2y ago
OP has PTSD from wintel computers i guess. People move to macs and don't expect sleep to work, expect to need a mouse for their laptops etc. I could contradict the entire article with my personal experiences if I took the time. Been using multiple monitor Macs (and Linux before them) for ages. > When the Dock is on the side, it only appears on the display that is farthest to that side. Having to move the mouse across multiple displays just to get to the Dock is untenably slow and awkward. Who uses the dock? What's wrong with Cmd+Tab and starting applications from Cmd+space? The dock is where I look for that app I only use every 3 weeks but I still keep open... > If – in a typical horizontal arrangement – you give the two displays equal priority in placement, you end up with one to your left and one to your right, with a very irritating gap between them in the one place it’s natural to look – straight ahead of you. > Whatever it is, I just cannot get comfortable moving between displays frequently. Look at those items. It never ever occured to me to place two monitors symmetrically with the space between them exactly in front of my eyes. You have a primary and a secondary, the primary is in front of you and the secondary is on a side, and not parallel to the primary so you keep the same distance. I'd rephrase it as "dual monitors sucks for me, and I happen to be on a Mac so I blame the Mac". I think the OP is the target audience for those ultrawides...
- OJFord 2y ago
  > Who uses the dock? What's wrong with Right. Shame it can't be turned off then, nevermind just another user error right?
  - nottorp 2y ago
    You missed the part where i said i can contradict everythin based on my personal experience, which is personal? :) Btw, even if i rarely use it, i keep it on the bottom of my primary (the one in front of me) monitor. And not set to auto hide.
  - hu3 2y ago
    You're holding it wrong.
  - mckn1ght 2y ago
    It effectively can be turned off with auto-hide, but yes, it would be nice to reclaim the system resources by quitting it like any other application.
- wasteduniverse 2y ago
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- baq 2y ago
  > OP has PTSD from wintel computers i guess. People move to macs and don't expect sleep to work, expect to need a mouse for their laptops etc. Say for yourself. My mac becomes unusuable after a week. I reboot at least every Monday, sometimes more. I used to do it more but looks like one of the updates fixed WiFi not being able to connect to anything and no amount of clicking or command line resetting would help.
  - nottorp 2y ago
    Personal experiences. I'm on my 4th apple laptop since 2013, I never rebooted them except for OS updates and I never had any problems with wifi or lag. Besides I started a windows development contract this month which immediately reminded me why i pay the apple tax...

OskarS 2y ago

Yeah, I was a little bit baffled when I saw the post. I move between two different multi-screen setups with different arrangements (at home and at work), plus using my laptop alone. I haven't done like a study or whatever if it remembers my window positions, but I've never been annoyed with how macOS handles it, it's classic Apple "just works".