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I know that, but I didn’t think it was because of security. I don’t think of the US as particularly dangerous, but maybe my perception is wrong…

RVuRnvbM2e 2y ago
The homicide rate is 8x Australia's, so yeah it is by comparison.
_ZeD_ 2y ago
I know that US is vast, and there are millions of good places where one could feel safe, but I assure you, from the outside sometimes is seems you live in a mad max alternate universe
- echoangle 2y ago
  I’m from Europe, but I would have no problem going to a tech meeting with some google engineers in Silicon Valley.
JonChesterfield 2y ago
It's the guns and the police. People get angry or frightened. It's better for everyone else if they're not carrying a firearms at that point. Policing a nation where everyone is armed means the police are heavily armed and the non-insane ones very frightened all the time. See above.
- lambdaone 2y ago
  Worse than that, having a gun doesn't make you safer; it increases the risk to everyone in your household. But I can absolutely understand why fear drives people to own guns -- it's a vicious circle as increased gun ownership drives fear, which in turn drives even more gun purchases...
bildung 2y ago
Homicide rate is 10x the rate of EU and over 30x the rate of Japan: https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/a-decade-of-declining-violence-worldwide-except-in-the-usa-and-latin-america,17534 https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/a... Rape rate is about 3x the rate of EU: https://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/crime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf https://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/crime_stats_oecdjan... People killed by police (population adjusted) is about 30x the rate of Germany: https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-de... https://polizeischuesse.cilip.de/?p=1&year=2023 https://polizeischuesse.cilip.de/?p=1&year=2023
- echoangle 2y ago
  Sure, but those rates are also really low. That’s a bit like saying you’re scared of using your car because a plane is much safer. The chance of getting hurt while visiting a meeting in Silicon Valley is still one in a million.

RVuRnvbM2e 2y ago

The homicide rate is 8x Australia's, so yeah it is by comparison.

_ZeD_ 2y ago

I know that US is vast, and there are millions of good places where one could feel safe, but I assure you, from the outside sometimes is seems you live in a mad max alternate universe

echoangle 2y ago
I’m from Europe, but I would have no problem going to a tech meeting with some google engineers in Silicon Valley.

JonChesterfield 2y ago

It's the guns and the police. People get angry or frightened. It's better for everyone else if they're not carrying a firearms at that point. Policing a nation where everyone is armed means the police are heavily armed and the non-insane ones very frightened all the time. See above.

lambdaone 2y ago
Worse than that, having a gun doesn't make you safer; it increases the risk to everyone in your household. But I can absolutely understand why fear drives people to own guns -- it's a vicious circle as increased gun ownership drives fear, which in turn drives even more gun purchases...

bildung 2y ago

Homicide rate is 10x the rate of EU and over 30x the rate of Japan: https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/a-decade-of-declining-violence-worldwide-except-in-the-usa-and-latin-america,17534 https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/a... Rape rate is about 3x the rate of EU: https://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/crime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf https://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/crime_stats_oecdjan... People killed by police (population adjusted) is about 30x the rate of Germany: https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-de... https://polizeischuesse.cilip.de/?p=1&year=2023 https://polizeischuesse.cilip.de/?p=1&year=2023

echoangle 2y ago
Sure, but those rates are also really low. That’s a bit like saying you’re scared of using your car because a plane is much safer. The chance of getting hurt while visiting a meeting in Silicon Valley is still one in a million.