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Humorously, the CDC claims smoking lowers mortality for people prone to depression: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37923037 https://news.ycombinator.com/

Humorously, the CDC claims smoking lowers mortality for people prone to depression: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37923037 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37923037 (Ignore the downvotes this will likely get. People seem to knee-jerk have an issue with me saying anything at all about health. It's meaningless noise.)

keepamovin 2y ago
I guess that makes sense. I mean I'm not depressed and I never have been but I know that cigarettes gave stability to a lot of friends I had when younger who had those kind of issues. Less likely to fall off the deep end and probably kept them more functional and taking care of themselves. Does it make them less depressed? As an aside on the downvotes: i mean, whatever works for you! People downvote but they're not you, and your body is gonna be unique. Everything can work differently for different people.
- DoreenMichele 2y ago
  Cigarettes do make some people less depressed. Some depression medications are known to help people stop smoking.
  - keepamovin 2y ago
    Interesting. Not sure what to make of that, brain is not quite optimal right now but I guess those systems are connected. Probably depression is a complex thing with distinct pathologies covered by one word that can’t capture all the causes, even tho symptoms overlap across distinct types. Gut brain important too. Everyone’s different. I didn’t get COVID but my spouse got it and we lived in a very dense part of the world during it. Before taking a crowded train my body would crave a cigarette, not for the anxiety, would be like the night before, but I figured out it was warming up my immune system. Maybe the oxidative chemicals in the smoke also kill virus and bacteria too. I very seldom get halitosis but I find a cigarette knocks it out and it doesn’t come back. Everyone’s different tho which is also science: epigenetics etc. I think occasional tobacco aligns with its historical use as a shamanic or medicinal herb. I love the nicotine high but I’ve never been addicted compulsively so I never got into it, but occasional is good. Track my health across years where I have a couple cigarettes versus none at all and it’s better in those moderation years. Very occasional is good for my qi too. It’s funny tho that CDC admits it improves depression in some. Haha

keepamovin 2y ago

I guess that makes sense. I mean I'm not depressed and I never have been but I know that cigarettes gave stability to a lot of friends I had when younger who had those kind of issues. Less likely to fall off the deep end and probably kept them more functional and taking care of themselves. Does it make them less depressed? As an aside on the downvotes: i mean, whatever works for you! People downvote but they're not you, and your body is gonna be unique. Everything can work differently for different people.

DoreenMichele 2y ago
Cigarettes do make some people less depressed. Some depression medications are known to help people stop smoking.
- keepamovin 2y ago
  Interesting. Not sure what to make of that, brain is not quite optimal right now but I guess those systems are connected. Probably depression is a complex thing with distinct pathologies covered by one word that can’t capture all the causes, even tho symptoms overlap across distinct types. Gut brain important too. Everyone’s different. I didn’t get COVID but my spouse got it and we lived in a very dense part of the world during it. Before taking a crowded train my body would crave a cigarette, not for the anxiety, would be like the night before, but I figured out it was warming up my immune system. Maybe the oxidative chemicals in the smoke also kill virus and bacteria too. I very seldom get halitosis but I find a cigarette knocks it out and it doesn’t come back. Everyone’s different tho which is also science: epigenetics etc. I think occasional tobacco aligns with its historical use as a shamanic or medicinal herb. I love the nicotine high but I’ve never been addicted compulsively so I never got into it, but occasional is good. Track my health across years where I have a couple cigarettes versus none at all and it’s better in those moderation years. Very occasional is good for my qi too. It’s funny tho that CDC admits it improves depression in some. Haha