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> It is always great to have period software on period hardware! Really is. This is why I keep a load of old hardware around. Stuff like Mac OS 9 should be run

by mattl 3y ago

> It is always great to have period software on period hardware! Really is. This is why I keep a load of old hardware around. Stuff like Mac OS 9 should be run on real hardware and same for old MS-DOS.

at_a_remove 3y ago
If not for space considerations, I would be right there with you. I still have hardware and software to get me back to NT 4.0 or Windows 95 (OSR 2, please, it wasn't tolerable before that). I haven't needed to in a while, but in a previous job, we'd run across old disks in some author's archive and I'd go home to dig around, find a 5.25" drive and rig something up, reach back in time. I could maybe do Windows for Workgroups 3.11. If shipping weren't so brutal, I would love to send off my old stuff to someone who would use it. I still have working SCSI equipment! I bet somewhere there is someone stymied on trying to liberate some ancient works but for the necessary hardware/software setup.
- metadat 3y ago
  SCSI drives almost never go bad. Compared to IDE/SATA, they were significantly better built and had lower failure rates. I still have a few 15k RPM Cheetahs that still work, last I checked :).
  - HeckFeck 3y ago
    The SCSI drive in my Mac SE is older than me and it still works. Delightfully clicky, in fact louder than the floppy drive!
  - sponaugle 3y ago
    In general, it is surprising how many old hard drives still work. I have a good number of old SCSI drives (even Seagate!) that still work 40 years on. The ST225 in one of my XTs still works great as well. I actually have a ST238R still new in box, and I'll be curious to see if it can spin up some day. I suspect the bearings might be a stuck after all of these years!
    - h2odragon 3y ago
      They can be baked to re-blend the lubricants and free up bearings. 200F for a couple hours, as i recall.
- sponaugle 3y ago
  Indeed - Space is a key for being able to collect and restore this kind of stuff. I have most of my working machine lined up along a wall in one of my garage/lab areas (https://youtu.be/XHvdqB6LSg0 https://youtu.be/XHvdqB6LSg0). My wife has pretty much no idea what those computers are for, and my daughter just wants to play Oregon Trail on them. They are fun to collect and restore. It is also helpful to be good at replacing capacitors. ;). Those surface mount ones on the Mac mainboards are almost always bad!
  - stikit 3y ago
    Amazing collection. Thanks for posting! Could you share a bit of your process for finding and restoring? The work involved must have been extensive.

by mattl 3y ago

at_a_remove 3y ago

If not for space considerations, I would be right there with you. I still have hardware and software to get me back to NT 4.0 or Windows 95 (OSR 2, please, it wasn't tolerable before that). I haven't needed to in a while, but in a previous job, we'd run across old disks in some author's archive and I'd go home to dig around, find a 5.25" drive and rig something up, reach back in time. I could maybe do Windows for Workgroups 3.11. If shipping weren't so brutal, I would love to send off my old stuff to someone who would use it. I still have working SCSI equipment! I bet somewhere there is someone stymied on trying to liberate some ancient works but for the necessary hardware/software setup.

metadat 3y ago
SCSI drives almost never go bad. Compared to IDE/SATA, they were significantly better built and had lower failure rates. I still have a few 15k RPM Cheetahs that still work, last I checked :).
- HeckFeck 3y ago
  The SCSI drive in my Mac SE is older than me and it still works. Delightfully clicky, in fact louder than the floppy drive!
- sponaugle 3y ago
  In general, it is surprising how many old hard drives still work. I have a good number of old SCSI drives (even Seagate!) that still work 40 years on. The ST225 in one of my XTs still works great as well. I actually have a ST238R still new in box, and I'll be curious to see if it can spin up some day. I suspect the bearings might be a stuck after all of these years!
  - h2odragon 3y ago
    They can be baked to re-blend the lubricants and free up bearings. 200F for a couple hours, as i recall.
sponaugle 3y ago
Indeed - Space is a key for being able to collect and restore this kind of stuff. I have most of my working machine lined up along a wall in one of my garage/lab areas (https://youtu.be/XHvdqB6LSg0 https://youtu.be/XHvdqB6LSg0). My wife has pretty much no idea what those computers are for, and my daughter just wants to play Oregon Trail on them. They are fun to collect and restore. It is also helpful to be good at replacing capacitors. ;). Those surface mount ones on the Mac mainboards are almost always bad!
- stikit 3y ago
  Amazing collection. Thanks for posting! Could you share a bit of your process for finding and restoring? The work involved must have been extensive.