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(Discussion continues here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40164077 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40164077) This post was stolen from https://web.

(Discussion continues here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40164077 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40164077) This post was stolen from https://web.archive.org/web/20110416092916/https://jinfiesto.posterous.com/stop-telling-students-recursion-is-hard https://web.archive.org/web/20110416092916/https://jinfiesto... OP is plagiarizing blog posts at scale, across lots of different throwaway HN accounts and fake Substack blogs. They appear to be going through old Hacker News submissions, finding the source content, and then publishing those posts on blogs that they created. Here's when the real post was submitted to HN, back in 2011: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2440364 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2440364 OP, would you care to share more about your scam? What do you get from it? Here's other examples where they did the same thing using different Substacks and different HN accounts - this is just a subset: 11 years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5337525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5337525 (plagiarized and submitted as https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40081175 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40081175) 12 years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3425331 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3425331 (plagiarized and submitted as https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40091392 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40091392) 13 years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3154446 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3154446 (plagiarized and submitted as https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40150949 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40150949)

hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
Maybe we need to start doing like my university's math and engineering departments did to combat plagiarism: keep a very long history of automatic Bayesian and structural similarity analysis of every electronic homework and lab submission from a multitude of participating campuses. Sounds like a viable startup business idea IYAM but would need institutional and/or platform champions for initial beta users.
- analog31 2y ago
  Are they allowed to circulate these student assignments under FERPA?
  - hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
    IIRC, the system didn't exchange plaintext to nodes on other campuses. It passed signatures and each institution maintained their own collections for definitive comparison because the most common case was submitting someone else's work from another year. It was the era of barely high speed internet. Perhaps with the advent of generative LLMs, this will assist in the generation of entirely personalized university assignments and exams making "replay attack" cheating impossible. Hopefully, LLMs will also semi-automate correctness verification of exams and correct answers.

hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago

Maybe we need to start doing like my university's math and engineering departments did to combat plagiarism: keep a very long history of automatic Bayesian and structural similarity analysis of every electronic homework and lab submission from a multitude of participating campuses. Sounds like a viable startup business idea IYAM but would need institutional and/or platform champions for initial beta users.

analog31 2y ago
Are they allowed to circulate these student assignments under FERPA?
- hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
  IIRC, the system didn't exchange plaintext to nodes on other campuses. It passed signatures and each institution maintained their own collections for definitive comparison because the most common case was submitting someone else's work from another year. It was the era of barely high speed internet. Perhaps with the advent of generative LLMs, this will assist in the generation of entirely personalized university assignments and exams making "replay attack" cheating impossible. Hopefully, LLMs will also semi-automate correctness verification of exams and correct answers.