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> Are you being sarcastic? Did you miss the part where he waged an attempted coup against the US government to remain in power? I never understood that: I wat

> Are you being sarcastic? Did you miss the part where he waged an attempted coup against the US government to remain in power? I never understood that: I watched his speech. All I saw looked reasonable, appropriate, prudent. It seemed he was careful to advise no violence. That there was an "attempted coup" makes no sense to me. I watched his speech and saw nothing wrong. > I mean... he was just found by a court to have committed rape. I didn't and don't see that. But, if what you say is correct, then that would explain why some people don't like him. From your post, it looks like there is some deep bitterness about Trump. I don't see why, but okay. For one explanation there is that old collection of media video clips https://youtu.be/f1ab6uxg908 https://youtu.be/f1ab6uxg908 Apparently the media was totally convinced that those clips would doom Trump; maybe those clips are why some people don't like him. Watch the clips -- if anything, by now they are entertaining! They have much of the largest of the MSM (mainstream media) doing a big gang up, pile on of "bombshell", "done, no question about that", etc. that never happened. Maybe in low level town and city politics nearly everyone interested in politics at all has some really strong reasons to like the Democrat Party. If my startup works, maybe I'll discover that the local Democrats will do good things for me but the Republicans won't. Hmm.

ModernMech 2y ago
I watched your video -- it's media personalities babbling. You should probably inform yourself about the coup, the speech wasn't it. Here is some actual info to start: The J6 commission report: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-J6-REPORT/pdf/GPO-J6-REPORT.pdf https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-J6-REPORT/pdf/GPO-J6... The Federal indictments: https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/08/trump-indictment.pdf https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/08/trump-i... The Georgia indictments: https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/08/CRIMINAL-INDICTMENT-Trump-Fulton-County-GA.pdf https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/08/CRIMINA... The Arizona indictments: https://mcusercontent.com/cc1fad182b6d6f8b1e352e206/files/fa85cddf-ccc6-7dee-dd58-ff5e80d53b15/Indictment.03.pdf https://mcusercontent.com/cc1fad182b6d6f8b1e352e206/files/fa... The finding of rape: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.212.0.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.59... “The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ... Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”
- graycat 2y ago
  > I watched your video -- it's media personalities babbling. Yup, but maybe it and related media stuff is responsible for much of the anti-Trump opinions there are. I thought the collection was outrageous, insulting, and dirty politics but settled on it being entertaining. > rape A NY jury found Trump guilty of WHAT with his fingers? If Trump entered Carroll's dressing room, she was supposed to scream loudly enough to blow the roof off the store. Every girl over the age of 12, 9, ..., 5 knows this. I just looked quickly via Google and found: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-car... with "Despite Carroll’s claims that Trump had raped her, they noted, the jury stopped short of saying he committed that particular offense. Instead, jurors opted for a second option: sexual abuse." and the article quotes some judge saying that the act really was rape. Hmm. If we are going by a jury trial, then it's "sexual abuse". If we are not going by a jury trial, then it's made up, cooked up, porn star and Democrat Party political dirt to "get Trump" -- Trump with a "porn star". Naa .... While married to Melania??? Naa!! While planning to run for POTUS, take a risk of being extorted??? Whatever Trump is, he's NOT bonkers, brain-dead stupid. Besides, in US culture, what happens between a male and female alone is unknowable, and that's why US females over the age of 12, 9, ..., 5 are strongly advised never to be alone with a male. So, likely we can never know for sure about such things. As I recall, there is a document signed by Carroll that no rape ever happened. Uh, maybe Trump was guilty of the bad judgment of being in the women's department of a high end NYC department store .... Or, maybe it's about "defamation" of a porn star? Maybe it's about getting $130,000 to keep quiet. > Arizona Seems to have to do with Kelli Ward and nothing directly with Trump. As I recall, Ward has been fighting in Arizona. > Georgia I would trust any homeless person in a plastic shelter on a street in NYC more than the Georgia legal system. > J6 Maybe some day we will have access to and an objective review of all the actions of and evidence presented to the J6 committee. (A) From watching Trump's J6 speech, I don't believe he did anything wrong on J6 -- he didn't even have an opportunity to do anything wrong. (B) The J6 committee looked like a kangaroo court, not at all objective, just to sow doubt about Trump. It was not a real court and was just a committee of Congress, and apparently they are permitted to do whatever they want. So, they wanted to dump on Trump -- we can believe that. > Federal That's a bunch of DC stuff saying that, yes, Trump has rights, e.g., 1st rights, but still from his words within those rights did something illegal. Nonsense. On troops for J6, there are claims that (a) that decision is up to the Speaker, Pelosi, (b) within plenty of time Trump offered a big force from the military, (c) the Mayor of DC also turned down both Trump and the DC Chief of Police. Besides, what I saw of J6 was (a) US citizens legally petitioning Congress for redress of grievances, (b) some guy in a Buffalo costume, (c) a police officer assuming his "tactical stance" and killing some citizen for no good reason, (d) some small fraction of the people misbehaving in ways that should get them arrested. As I saw the 2020 election, in some of the "swing states" (a) the local Democrats had a long standing, non-trivial, and effective machine to create votes, at least as mail-in ballots, as necessary and, in a close election, sufficient and (b) the state governments declined to exercise their authorities to investigate the situation. Sounds like machine politics.

ModernMech 2y ago

I watched your video -- it's media personalities babbling. You should probably inform yourself about the coup, the speech wasn't it. Here is some actual info to start: The J6 commission report: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-J6-REPORT/pdf/GPO-J6-REPORT.pdf https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-J6-REPORT/pdf/GPO-J6... The Federal indictments: https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/08/trump-indictment.pdf https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/08/trump-i... The Georgia indictments: https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/08/CRIMINAL-INDICTMENT-Trump-Fulton-County-GA.pdf https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/08/CRIMINA... The Arizona indictments: https://mcusercontent.com/cc1fad182b6d6f8b1e352e206/files/fa85cddf-ccc6-7dee-dd58-ff5e80d53b15/Indictment.03.pdf https://mcusercontent.com/cc1fad182b6d6f8b1e352e206/files/fa... The finding of rape: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.212.0.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.59... “The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ... Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

graycat 2y ago
> I watched your video -- it's media personalities babbling. Yup, but maybe it and related media stuff is responsible for much of the anti-Trump opinions there are. I thought the collection was outrageous, insulting, and dirty politics but settled on it being entertaining. > rape A NY jury found Trump guilty of WHAT with his fingers? If Trump entered Carroll's dressing room, she was supposed to scream loudly enough to blow the roof off the store. Every girl over the age of 12, 9, ..., 5 knows this. I just looked quickly via Google and found: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-car... with "Despite Carroll’s claims that Trump had raped her, they noted, the jury stopped short of saying he committed that particular offense. Instead, jurors opted for a second option: sexual abuse." and the article quotes some judge saying that the act really was rape. Hmm. If we are going by a jury trial, then it's "sexual abuse". If we are not going by a jury trial, then it's made up, cooked up, porn star and Democrat Party political dirt to "get Trump" -- Trump with a "porn star". Naa .... While married to Melania??? Naa!! While planning to run for POTUS, take a risk of being extorted??? Whatever Trump is, he's NOT bonkers, brain-dead stupid. Besides, in US culture, what happens between a male and female alone is unknowable, and that's why US females over the age of 12, 9, ..., 5 are strongly advised never to be alone with a male. So, likely we can never know for sure about such things. As I recall, there is a document signed by Carroll that no rape ever happened. Uh, maybe Trump was guilty of the bad judgment of being in the women's department of a high end NYC department store .... Or, maybe it's about "defamation" of a porn star? Maybe it's about getting $130,000 to keep quiet. > Arizona Seems to have to do with Kelli Ward and nothing directly with Trump. As I recall, Ward has been fighting in Arizona. > Georgia I would trust any homeless person in a plastic shelter on a street in NYC more than the Georgia legal system. > J6 Maybe some day we will have access to and an objective review of all the actions of and evidence presented to the J6 committee. (A) From watching Trump's J6 speech, I don't believe he did anything wrong on J6 -- he didn't even have an opportunity to do anything wrong. (B) The J6 committee looked like a kangaroo court, not at all objective, just to sow doubt about Trump. It was not a real court and was just a committee of Congress, and apparently they are permitted to do whatever they want. So, they wanted to dump on Trump -- we can believe that. > Federal That's a bunch of DC stuff saying that, yes, Trump has rights, e.g., 1st rights, but still from his words within those rights did something illegal. Nonsense. On troops for J6, there are claims that (a) that decision is up to the Speaker, Pelosi, (b) within plenty of time Trump offered a big force from the military, (c) the Mayor of DC also turned down both Trump and the DC Chief of Police. Besides, what I saw of J6 was (a) US citizens legally petitioning Congress for redress of grievances, (b) some guy in a Buffalo costume, (c) a police officer assuming his "tactical stance" and killing some citizen for no good reason, (d) some small fraction of the people misbehaving in ways that should get them arrested. As I saw the 2020 election, in some of the "swing states" (a) the local Democrats had a long standing, non-trivial, and effective machine to create votes, at least as mail-in ballots, as necessary and, in a close election, sufficient and (b) the state governments declined to exercise their authorities to investigate the situation. Sounds like machine politics.