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Damn so sesame oil or soybean oil? Those are essential is asian cuisine

gavindean90 2y ago
Use them as dressings but don’t cook with it.
lambdaba 2y ago
Soybean oil is mentioned in the study. A lot of people get very angry when seed oil dangers are mentioned, it's hilariously politicized, the fact is these are not lindy at all, there is no tradition that would validate their safety, these are 20th century inventions.
- gruez 2y ago
  >when seed oil dangers are mentioned, it's hilariously politicized ??? Where are you seeing this? It's definitely controversial, but calling it "politicized" seems like a stretch.
  - lambdaba 2y ago
    Seed oil avoidance is right-wing coded, it's undeniable. To be clear, a segment of the online right-wing, I'm not saying literally half the population.
    - wk_end 2y ago
      Can you elaborate further? I think of myself as pretty online (sadly) and I haven't heard anyone, right or left, talk about the politics of seed oils. EDIT: should've searched first. Sigh. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/is-seed-oil-bad-for-you-wellness-influencers-right-wing-debunked-1234809499/ https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/is-see...
    - gruez 2y ago
      > Seed oil avoidance is right-wing coded, it's undeniable. Even taking that claim at face value, "right-wing coded" is hardly the same as "hilariously politicized". Living in rural areas is right-wing coded as well[1], but nobody would seriously call it "hilariously politicized", especially when you consider the broader context of the phrase: >A lot of people get very angry when seed oil dangers are mentioned, it's hilariously politicized [1] https://www.cnn.com/election/2022/exit-polls/national-results/house/0 https://www.cnn.com/election/2022/exit-polls/national-result...
  - idiotsecant 2y ago
    I am equally confused. I think there is a dumb but somewhat worrying trend of people's political identity becoming so pervasive that it absorbs secondary and tertiary opinions about completely unrelated things.
    - lambdaba 2y ago
      Yes, a large segment of conservatives have taken the place that previously left-wing hippies occupied wrt skepticism of mainstream health advice, and seed oils is a major subject, I would say even iconic, with places like Reddit vehemently disagreeing and calling it anti-science or whatever. I agree that it's unfortunate, but currently this previously left-wing impulse to favor "natural", "unprocessed" products is predominantly found in right-wing circles.
      - plufz 2y ago
        Yeah this is a really weird shift that has happened in a relatively short time. In Sweden we have strange groups of nazis and hippies that you wouldn’t have thought would happen in a million years when I was a kid in the 80s/90s.
darth_avocado 2y ago
Soybean oil is very common in most American deep fried food.
- lambdaba 2y ago
  I know it's not very HN of me but I want to point out your username is highly relevant to the discussion.
  - darth_avocado 2y ago
    I must admit, I cook all my food with Avocado oil. Unless EVOO can be used.
    - lambdaba 2y ago
      Understandable, it's delicious. It's great for salad seasonings too, but you're surely aware of that :P.
    - thrill 2y ago
      Give Zero Acre fermented ("cultured") oil a try.

Use them as dressings but don’t cook with it.

Soybean oil is mentioned in the study. A lot of people get very angry when seed oil dangers are mentioned, it's hilariously politicized, the fact is these are not lindy at all, there is no tradition that would validate their safety, these are 20th century inventions.

gruez 2y ago
>when seed oil dangers are mentioned, it's hilariously politicized ??? Where are you seeing this? It's definitely controversial, but calling it "politicized" seems like a stretch.
- lambdaba 2y ago
  Seed oil avoidance is right-wing coded, it's undeniable. To be clear, a segment of the online right-wing, I'm not saying literally half the population.
  - wk_end 2y ago
    Can you elaborate further? I think of myself as pretty online (sadly) and I haven't heard anyone, right or left, talk about the politics of seed oils. EDIT: should've searched first. Sigh. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/is-seed-oil-bad-for-you-wellness-influencers-right-wing-debunked-1234809499/ https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/is-see...
  - gruez 2y ago
    > Seed oil avoidance is right-wing coded, it's undeniable. Even taking that claim at face value, "right-wing coded" is hardly the same as "hilariously politicized". Living in rural areas is right-wing coded as well[1], but nobody would seriously call it "hilariously politicized", especially when you consider the broader context of the phrase: >A lot of people get very angry when seed oil dangers are mentioned, it's hilariously politicized [1] https://www.cnn.com/election/2022/exit-polls/national-results/house/0 https://www.cnn.com/election/2022/exit-polls/national-result...
- idiotsecant 2y ago
  I am equally confused. I think there is a dumb but somewhat worrying trend of people's political identity becoming so pervasive that it absorbs secondary and tertiary opinions about completely unrelated things.
  - lambdaba 2y ago
    Yes, a large segment of conservatives have taken the place that previously left-wing hippies occupied wrt skepticism of mainstream health advice, and seed oils is a major subject, I would say even iconic, with places like Reddit vehemently disagreeing and calling it anti-science or whatever. I agree that it's unfortunate, but currently this previously left-wing impulse to favor "natural", "unprocessed" products is predominantly found in right-wing circles.
    - plufz 2y ago
      Yeah this is a really weird shift that has happened in a relatively short time. In Sweden we have strange groups of nazis and hippies that you wouldn’t have thought would happen in a million years when I was a kid in the 80s/90s.

darth_avocado 2y ago

Soybean oil is very common in most American deep fried food.

lambdaba 2y ago
I know it's not very HN of me but I want to point out your username is highly relevant to the discussion.
- darth_avocado 2y ago
  I must admit, I cook all my food with Avocado oil. Unless EVOO can be used.
  - lambdaba 2y ago
    Understandable, it's delicious. It's great for salad seasonings too, but you're surely aware of that :P.
  - thrill 2y ago
    Give Zero Acre fermented ("cultured") oil a try.