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too bad you can't do this in Canada
by spxneo 2y ago
too bad you can't do this in Canada
- Szpadel 2y agowhy?
- Nextgrid 2y agoRegulatory capture and the regulator being in bed with the incumbents. Not Canada-specific even, this is a common problem in a lot of countries when it comes to telecoms.
- betaby 2y agoOverregulation. Source, I work in telecom in Canada.
- loceng 2y agoAnd now all telecom companies are required to interconnect, right? Or did that not happen? The government mandated that after the "Rogers outage" - so that other providers can act as "backups", so "that never happens again."
- betaby 2y ago> And now all telecom companies are required to interconnect, right? No. That's not the case at all. > so that other providers can act as "backups", so "that never happens again." Also, no. Also what do you mean by interconnect? BGP IP peering is a thing for a while. Big folks peer with big folks.
- loceng 2y ago"Ottawa announces it will require telecoms to provide backup for each other during outages following Rogers system failure" - https://www.thestar.com/business/ottawa-announces-it-will-require-telecoms-to-provide-backup-for-each-other-during-outages-following/article_f0f743de-398d-5c80-9ffc-0821b242ad2f.html https://www.thestar.com/business/ottawa-announces-it-will-re... Are you aware of this?
- kazinator 2y agoWhen there is only "telecom" and not "telecoms", Ottawa will have to rephrase that.
- loceng 2y agoCanada will be abbreviated to CCP at that point.
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y agoEven mainland china's ISPs are not entirely monolithic.
- loceng 2y agoAnd so this has to be done on a technical level in Canada to have the same capacity as the social oversight of CCP personnel being firmly embedded in each ISP on mainland China, right?
- protocolture 2y agoReally? I found Canada one of the least regulated. Although there were a few weird hoops. Out of ~10 countries I have supported WISP's in, I have never seen a country with less of a barrier to entry. We did have a theory that our customers were rural, and that the cities might present different issues. But trying to do what they did in Australia would be add 2 zeroes to the end of every cost.
- ThePowerOfFuet 2y agoAsk TekSavvy that question.
- betaby 2y agoOr Ebox. In fact some of hurdles were documented on dslreports forum. Starting with wholesale access to cable ( worked OK for a while ) continuing with wholesale access to fiber ( never happens ) and ending with the end of the 'sane' rates for cable ( final nail before Ebox, Destributel and other were sold to Bell/Telus/Cogeco )
- throw0101c 2y ago> continuing with wholesale access to fiber ( never happens ) * https://mobilesyrup.com/2023/11/06/bell-and-telus-must-offer-competitors-access-to-fibre-to-the-home-network-crtc/ https://mobilesyrup.com/2023/11/06/bell-and-telus-must-offer... Or you can do what Beanfield did and build out your own fibre infrastructure to customers.
- posguy 2y agoFighting every municipality and Homeowners Association (HOA, aka Strata) along the way. Running fiber is tough here in the US, even motivated incumbents see a minimum of a 6 month delay waiting for permits in many municipalities to run fiber through existing conduit owned by said incumbent.
- nayuki 2y agoBeanfield runs fiber through streets and sewers, and provides networking to office buildings and condominium apartments. I don't think they serve detached houses, as the low density is not worth it.
- throw0101c 2y agoOr Beanfield.
- anthk 2y agoNether in Spain...
- dotBen 2y agoNeither in San Francisco. In 2005 Google wanted to do a nice gesture and offer free wifi across SF. The Board of Supervisors literally asked Google how much they were intending to pay the city in order to offer free wifi... SMH. It of course never happened.
- cdea 2y agoThere are a few in SF. MonkeyBrains being a local-friendly top of mind name. Downside is the smallest vibrations, wind gusts, or rain often leads to service degradation.
- mdaniel 2y agoAnd also Sonic.net crew representin', although bizarrely they are(were?) only north of Market street :-( I also had mostly-good experiences with Google Fiber (née Webpass) coming to the condo building, although despite their name it came in via WISP on the roof. I could have thrown a rock and hit the Webpass building from my condo but ... at least it wasn't Comcast and the whole building got gigabit IPv6 service for what any one of the owners would have paid for it from Comcast. I bet our units being pre-wired for Ethernet made the situation easier, but depending on the size of the HOA I'd guess not insurmountable even if one had to pull cat6 later
- protocolture 2y agoUh there are tons of small wisps in canada what are you smoking?
- getToTheChopin 2y agoThere are plenty of small ISPs operating in Canada. Many have been acquired by Bell / Telus / Rogers in recent years, but there are still dozens of players offering fixed wireless or fibre connections -- mostly in rural areas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_internet_service_providers_in_Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_internet_service_provi... https://www.infrastructureontario.ca/en/what-we-do/projectssearch/accelerated-high-speed-internet-program/ https://www.infrastructureontario.ca/en/what-we-do/projectss...