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You can extend the blame to anything. Look at reddit or hn. They not only took over all these old tech forums and sites, but their very existence means users wh

You can extend the blame to anything. Look at reddit or hn. They not only took over all these old tech forums and sites, but their very existence means users who would have been on those would be forums aren’t even available. Maybe even worse is how news orgs like nyt or cnn or fox news have stolen their customer base from local news orgs. Chances are if you don’t live in dc or ny your local news org is a shell of its former self and probably mostly republishes ap wire news, and local issues aren’t well understood by most anyone.

klodolph 3y ago
And then there’s Discord, which also takes over from existing forums, but which has the additional distinction of being a complete pain to search.
- eshack94 3y ago
  As well as being a pain to search, it's complete black hole for information. The trend of more and more projects and companies using Discord as their primary forum for support, docs, and discussion boards is probably not one that will be looked back on as having been a good idea. I worry that there's so much valuable information stored in prior chats that will simply disappear if Discord ever goes away. In addition to this, this valuable information is not accessible/searchable via the web without a Discord account. Plus there's the 100 server limit for free accounts, which can become a problem depending on how many projects/communities one is involved with. That being said, Discord is convenient and cheaper to license/host communities than Slack, which I think is part of the allure.
the__alchemist 3y ago
Something Awful is still alive and well.
andoando 3y ago
I feel like HN is just the right size. Reddit is a whole another ball game.
Ensorceled 3y ago
> Maybe even worse is how news orgs like nyt or cnn or fox news have stolen their customer base from local news orgs. These news orgs didn't kill the locals, or even "steal" their customer base. It was the death of classified ads and other ad revenue. Google and Facebook stole their customers, not the NYT.
- kjkjadksj 3y ago
  If people were reading the paper the ads would still have a lot of value
  - Ensorceled 3y ago
    That's not true and is part of the problem. Paper ads only have "brand value". Advertising on Google/Facebook allows you to target your ads at males, 35-44 who have expressed interest in cars and are registered republicans.

klodolph 3y ago

And then there’s Discord, which also takes over from existing forums, but which has the additional distinction of being a complete pain to search.

eshack94 3y ago
As well as being a pain to search, it's complete black hole for information. The trend of more and more projects and companies using Discord as their primary forum for support, docs, and discussion boards is probably not one that will be looked back on as having been a good idea. I worry that there's so much valuable information stored in prior chats that will simply disappear if Discord ever goes away. In addition to this, this valuable information is not accessible/searchable via the web without a Discord account. Plus there's the 100 server limit for free accounts, which can become a problem depending on how many projects/communities one is involved with. That being said, Discord is convenient and cheaper to license/host communities than Slack, which I think is part of the allure.

the__alchemist 3y ago

Something Awful is still alive and well.

andoando 3y ago

I feel like HN is just the right size. Reddit is a whole another ball game.

Ensorceled 3y ago

> Maybe even worse is how news orgs like nyt or cnn or fox news have stolen their customer base from local news orgs. These news orgs didn't kill the locals, or even "steal" their customer base. It was the death of classified ads and other ad revenue. Google and Facebook stole their customers, not the NYT.

kjkjadksj 3y ago
If people were reading the paper the ads would still have a lot of value
- Ensorceled 3y ago
  That's not true and is part of the problem. Paper ads only have "brand value". Advertising on Google/Facebook allows you to target your ads at males, 35-44 who have expressed interest in cars and are registered republicans.