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Except ratopia tells a whole OTHER story. Ratopia has no poverty, no education, no environmental concerns. It's just space and abundance... the population peak
by zer00eyz 3y ago
Except ratopia tells a whole OTHER story.
Ratopia has no poverty, no education, no environmental concerns. It's just space and abundance... the population peaks and then declines.
It makes a very clear point that lacking struggle, populations decline.
- RGamma 3y ago> It makes a very clear point that lacking struggle, populations decline. In mice in the setting of the experiment. It's not clear at all that this applies so easily to our situation. You can probably fill a library or two with research on this though.
- quantified 3y agoTo some significant degree, want and hardship create motivation. If we (vaguely specified) aren't distracted by that, we start noticing hardship and want elsewhere, e.g in our cushy lives. Life for our great-great-grandparents sucked much worse on absolute measures than for us. They didn't say "this sucks, let's die" and they also needed children to support them. Wealthier societies with a social safety net downplay the need for children in the family. I do understand that the future physical world looks worse than the present one. But hey the survivors are the ones who rule. You can make the choice to take a weakness mindset out of the gene pool and that's fine, there are too many people already.
- RGamma 3y agoOne has to wonder whether we can reach a "permanently" stable equilibrium (universe permitting), where we can have our cake and eat it too, or whether we're doomed to eternal oscillation. I won't have children that might see it, but I'm cheering it on regardless.