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I'd flip it and say its what happens when Congress has been dysfunctional for over a decade. It's not even possible to get a house bill with net neutrality pass

I'd flip it and say its what happens when Congress has been dysfunctional for over a decade. It's not even possible to get a house bill with net neutrality passed without it included 99 other things that will inevitably get the bill punted on forever. Congress could have drafted this anytime if they had seen fit, but they are "too busy" fighting ideology wars.

mrguyorama 3y ago
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- cityofdelusion 3y ago
  There are de-facto one party systems in many cities, counties, and some states. They all suffer from getting nothing done. “Both sides” is a legitimate observation by those who recognize politics as upper class nobility vs the peasants. They run in the same social circles. We’re still primates at our core.
- seanp2k2 3y ago
  And when the House Speaker won’t even let it get to a vote in the first place, no one has any motivation to even draft such a bill. But yeah let’s ban TikTok because in theory they could do something bad that every US-based company already does. Way to represent the will of the people, House.
pessimizer 3y ago
> Congress could have drafted this anytime if they had seen fit, Congress as a whole does not support net neutrality, and the reason they have not drafted a simple house bill to do it that doesn't include 99 other things is because they had no desire to. It has nothing to do with "ideology wars."
- miah_ 3y ago
  Have no desire because they've been bribed, I mean lobbied.
jrockway 3y ago
To be fair Congress does some work. They have avoided 2 government shutdowns. They funded the war efforts in Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. They passed the infrastructure bill. The reality is, they just don't care about net neutrality. I'm still mad that they haven't passed the bill that gets rid of DST (or rather, gets rid of standard time). Everyone wants it in both parties. Just get it done. Even more annoying is the whole Section 174 debacle. Completely killing the field of software engineering in the US.
- _aavaa_ 3y ago
  > They have avoided 2 government shutdowns. My what a low bar
  - jszymborski 3y ago
    "They didn't trip on their own feet"
- packetlost 3y ago
  > They have avoided 2 government shutdowns You mean they passed a bill that was necessary for them to get their paychecks. I fail to see how this is even remotely surprising.
  - idiotsecant 3y ago
    I think their congressional salary is probably not where most members of Congress are deriving their main income. I think the paychecks their 'other' employers are cutting are more lucrative.
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    - TaylorAlexander 3y ago
      It’s true but “keep the government from grinding to a halt due to pure inaction” is kind of the absolute minimum bar for congress that I don’t think it’s reasonable to call it a win.
Dalewyn 3y ago
While I agree Congress is quite dysfunctional, the sheer difficulty with which to get a bill written, passed, and signed into law is by design. Legislation is supposed to take a large amount of deliberation, agreement, and time. Also consider that this works both ways: If something is passed into law by Congress, it's going to take monumental effort to undo it just like getting it passed was. An example of this is Obamacare, where getting it passed was difficult and revoking it has been difficult. Likewise, the flippant nature of orders authorized by the Executive Branch is also by design. Such orders are meant primarily to address short-term concerns requiring immediate or expedient attention, not long-term concerns that require thorough deliberation.
- magicalist 3y ago
  > the sheer difficulty with which to get a bill written, passed, and signed into law is by design No, the 118th Congress was not how anything was designed to operate. This is hand waving mixed with Founding Father fairytales.
loldk 3y ago
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redeeman 3y ago
because nobody wants single subject bills, it would semi make them accountable.. remind me, who in congress is for single subject bills, who is against? (and its very few individuals FOR, so not super hard)

mrguyorama 3y ago

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cityofdelusion 3y ago
There are de-facto one party systems in many cities, counties, and some states. They all suffer from getting nothing done. “Both sides” is a legitimate observation by those who recognize politics as upper class nobility vs the peasants. They run in the same social circles. We’re still primates at our core.
seanp2k2 3y ago
And when the House Speaker won’t even let it get to a vote in the first place, no one has any motivation to even draft such a bill. But yeah let’s ban TikTok because in theory they could do something bad that every US-based company already does. Way to represent the will of the people, House.

pessimizer 3y ago

> Congress could have drafted this anytime if they had seen fit, Congress as a whole does not support net neutrality, and the reason they have not drafted a simple house bill to do it that doesn't include 99 other things is because they had no desire to. It has nothing to do with "ideology wars."

miah_ 3y ago
Have no desire because they've been bribed, I mean lobbied.

jrockway 3y ago

To be fair Congress does some work. They have avoided 2 government shutdowns. They funded the war efforts in Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. They passed the infrastructure bill. The reality is, they just don't care about net neutrality. I'm still mad that they haven't passed the bill that gets rid of DST (or rather, gets rid of standard time). Everyone wants it in both parties. Just get it done. Even more annoying is the whole Section 174 debacle. Completely killing the field of software engineering in the US.

_aavaa_ 3y ago
> They have avoided 2 government shutdowns. My what a low bar
- jszymborski 3y ago
  "They didn't trip on their own feet"
packetlost 3y ago
> They have avoided 2 government shutdowns You mean they passed a bill that was necessary for them to get their paychecks. I fail to see how this is even remotely surprising.
- idiotsecant 3y ago
  I think their congressional salary is probably not where most members of Congress are deriving their main income. I think the paychecks their 'other' employers are cutting are more lucrative.
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  - TaylorAlexander 3y ago
    It’s true but “keep the government from grinding to a halt due to pure inaction” is kind of the absolute minimum bar for congress that I don’t think it’s reasonable to call it a win.

Dalewyn 3y ago

While I agree Congress is quite dysfunctional, the sheer difficulty with which to get a bill written, passed, and signed into law is by design. Legislation is supposed to take a large amount of deliberation, agreement, and time. Also consider that this works both ways: If something is passed into law by Congress, it's going to take monumental effort to undo it just like getting it passed was. An example of this is Obamacare, where getting it passed was difficult and revoking it has been difficult. Likewise, the flippant nature of orders authorized by the Executive Branch is also by design. Such orders are meant primarily to address short-term concerns requiring immediate or expedient attention, not long-term concerns that require thorough deliberation.

magicalist 3y ago
> the sheer difficulty with which to get a bill written, passed, and signed into law is by design No, the 118th Congress was not how anything was designed to operate. This is hand waving mixed with Founding Father fairytales.

loldk 3y ago

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redeeman 3y ago

because nobody wants single subject bills, it would semi make them accountable.. remind me, who in congress is for single subject bills, who is against? (and its very few individuals FOR, so not super hard)