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My condolences to all the podcasters and YouTubers who are probably going to get bombarded with extortion attempts after people use their hundreds of hours of p
by jsheard 3y ago
My condolences to all the podcasters and YouTubers who are probably going to get bombarded with extortion attempts after people use their hundreds of hours of public clean voice recordings to make a perfectly convincing voice clone, down to the tiniest quirks of pronunciation, cadence and so on. Who would have thought that would become an opsec risk.
- DontchaKnowit 3y agoHonestly? The writings been on the wall for at least a decade if not longer. This shouldnt really be surprising to anyone with a large corpus of recorded material online.
- jsheard 3y agoMaybe to people who were closely following the research, but I very much doubt it was on most peoples radar until maybe a year or so ago when ElevenLabs became available to the public and it started being used in viral memes of Trump and friends.
- DontchaKnowit 3y agoYeah I mean fair enough. Im no AI enthusiast and I knew about it a long time ago, however, I also spend a ton of time on the internet, read computer related news etc, so I spose your right. But I remember watching northernlion like 8 years ago and thinking "you could probably spoof this guys voice really easy with a nueral net"
- JdeBP 3y agoFar longer than a decade. We've known that this has been coming since the days of Max Headroom. The interesting thing is that in the Max Headroom days we thought that it would come about because of scheming corporate interests, not because of movie audiences that had pressed for ever better special effects, and fake Tom Cruises, all of these years.
- okhugres 3y ago> Who would have thought that would become an opsec risk. I did. So I’m sure many others too. They just likely met the same opposition that I did. Without defensive strategies today that allow those at risk to continue their risky behavior unencumbered then any warnings of tomorrow get drowned out by the demands of today.
- SuperNinKenDo 3y agoThings are such that it's really not going to matter that much, 100s of hours vs a couple hours is probably not going to make a world of difference. Many professionals give talks that are recorded, whether lectures, promotional materials, Q&A, etc. People can be recorded surreptitiously, etc. I think the only way to have avoided this is to be so paranoid as to have never allowed anyone near you with a phone or other recording device.
- pixl97 3y ago>as to have never allowed anyone near you So what you're saying is this is unworkable. I mean decades ago private investigators were working with miniature digital recording devices, I can only imagine they have been reduced to sizes that are embeddable and undetectable in almost anything.
- SuperNinKenDo 3y agoYes. I consider it totally unworkable sadly.
- uejfiweun 3y agoYeah, and let's not forget that we spent 2 years working over Zoom, a company under the thumb of a hostile foreign government. The CCP at this point could deepfake clone the voice of pretty much any American.
- ChrisMarshallNY 3y agoI believe that's already happening. I think that deepfake extortion is already a thing, and if someone is a popular influencer, then you know that they: A) Have money; and B) Really don't want even fake stuff getting out. For me, I couldn’t care less. I’ll upload it to YouTube. A mommy vlogger, on the other hand, might not want her squeaky-clean image soiled.
- qingcharles 3y agoThey're already being used extensively to make ads featuring content creators saying things they never said. They're not infrequent on TikTok. I guess TikTok will have to do far more verification on people who buy ads.