>Whether we optimize for widgets per hour or dollars per hour, we end up at the same place That might be true, but was not your original assertion. Your earli

>Whether we optimize for widgets per hour or dollars per hour, we end up at the same place That might be true, but was not your original assertion. Your earlier comment stated that the type of economy didn't matter: socialism, capitalism, etc. weren't the problem; only the Industrial Revolution. Socialists agreed with you about the Industrial Revolution crushing souls. They also believed capitalism was to blame (specifically, laissez-faire capitalism). We don't measure widgets. We measure money. That has everything to do with capitalism, and little to do with the Industrial Revolution. And, even less to do with socialism.