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For what it's worth -- having worked on the flipside -- Valleywag did uphold journalistic integrity to a better degree. VW protected and respected the wishes o

For what it's worth -- having worked on the flipside -- Valleywag did uphold journalistic integrity to a better degree. VW protected and respected the wishes of the sources, fact-checked as much as we could with multiple sources -- it was especially hilarious watching people blame VW on this to try to get away with their bullshit, and respect amongst the other writers in the industry. I would suggest you try working for them for awhile but, meh, it doesn't really matter.

lacker 18y ago
There's more to integrity than fact-checking. Valleywag built an audience on insults, gossip and scandal. I would not call that a great example of integrity.
- seiji 18y ago
  Valleywag : The Daily Show :: TechCrunch : FoxNews
- alaskamiller 18y ago
  Considering the publisher kept insisting it was a gossip rag that happened to have on board legit journalists that switched in and out of writing gossip, blind items, and poignant analysis... I'm not sure what to tell you.
iamelgringo 18y ago
Ummm... Yeah... About Valley Wag respecting the wishes of the sources and fact-checking multiple sources. Not so much in my case. I wrote a comment here on HN about the Yahoo/Microsoft merger based on a conversation I had with a friend that worked at Yahoo. I made the mistake of posting some identifiable information about my friend. Valley Wag picked up my 7 line comment, and turned it in to two separate stories on the Yahoo/Microsoft merger. They sourced one article to my comment, and included identifiable information about my friend. The second article did some "analysis" and speculation based on the information obtained in the first article. I was worried that my fried would get laid off, so I wrote Valley Wag and politely asked them to remove identifiable information about my friend. I was stunned by the nastiness in response from Valley Wag. I was told that I maybe I should think before I post on HN, and they had the freedom of speech to post whatever they wanted, etc... It was my mistake that I posted the information, and if my friend lost his job because of what I said, it was my fault. PG was nice enough to edit the identifying information out of my comment. My friend did indeed get a pink slip, although I don't think it had anything to do with the Valley Wag stuff. And Valley Wag stories got banned here a few months later. @alaskamiller: My interactions weren't with you. So, no hard feelings. Next one is on me at Hackers and Founders. :)
- alaskamiller 18y ago
  I'm trying to recall that particular incident. Was it Paul Boutin that wrote it? I should drag myself away from the desk and show up for those H&F meetups again soon. We'll chat about it.
  - iamelgringo 18y ago
    Looking forward to it. As I said, next one is on me.
- huherto 18y ago
  Yes, I remember the incident.

lacker 18y ago

There's more to integrity than fact-checking. Valleywag built an audience on insults, gossip and scandal. I would not call that a great example of integrity.

seiji 18y ago
Valleywag : The Daily Show :: TechCrunch : FoxNews
alaskamiller 18y ago
Considering the publisher kept insisting it was a gossip rag that happened to have on board legit journalists that switched in and out of writing gossip, blind items, and poignant analysis... I'm not sure what to tell you.

iamelgringo 18y ago

Ummm... Yeah... About Valley Wag respecting the wishes of the sources and fact-checking multiple sources. Not so much in my case. I wrote a comment here on HN about the Yahoo/Microsoft merger based on a conversation I had with a friend that worked at Yahoo. I made the mistake of posting some identifiable information about my friend. Valley Wag picked up my 7 line comment, and turned it in to two separate stories on the Yahoo/Microsoft merger. They sourced one article to my comment, and included identifiable information about my friend. The second article did some "analysis" and speculation based on the information obtained in the first article. I was worried that my fried would get laid off, so I wrote Valley Wag and politely asked them to remove identifiable information about my friend. I was stunned by the nastiness in response from Valley Wag. I was told that I maybe I should think before I post on HN, and they had the freedom of speech to post whatever they wanted, etc... It was my mistake that I posted the information, and if my friend lost his job because of what I said, it was my fault. PG was nice enough to edit the identifying information out of my comment. My friend did indeed get a pink slip, although I don't think it had anything to do with the Valley Wag stuff. And Valley Wag stories got banned here a few months later. @alaskamiller: My interactions weren't with you. So, no hard feelings. Next one is on me at Hackers and Founders. :)

alaskamiller 18y ago
I'm trying to recall that particular incident. Was it Paul Boutin that wrote it? I should drag myself away from the desk and show up for those H&F meetups again soon. We'll chat about it.
- iamelgringo 18y ago
  Looking forward to it. As I said, next one is on me.
huherto 18y ago
Yes, I remember the incident.