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> Earn seeding tokens How can this be possible in a non-centralized manner?

by runeks 2y ago

__MatrixMan__ 2y ago
Why wouldn't it be possible? My friends know what when I show up to a party, I usually bring a drink or a dish or something. There's no centralized database for this, they know because they've eaten and drank those things. We don't use tokens to keep track of this, but we could. The situation seems similar with seeding. It's just not commonly done because you have to build and maintain a web of trust for it to to work, and that's often a level of user responsibility that's hard to cultivate. But if you need that web of trust anyway (e.g. for filtering out ads ad other disinformation) then you might as well use it for consensus about who is a good citizen and who is not. (I have no idea if this is Tribler's approach, it's just on my mind because I've been designing something quite like Tribler, and it's my approach.)
yieldcrv 2y ago
It’s pretty easy to build an emission or reward schedule into the rules of a decentralized network when the software that nodes are running see another compliant node, they expect for it to be rewarded so they all conform to the additional issuance of tokens you just need to make sure that sybil attack attempts improve the network, as the attacker adds more nodes to earn more
hanniabu 2y ago
With blockchain, but HN would hate to hear there's a usecase
- deleted 2y ago
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fwip 2y ago
It uses Bitcoin
- hanniabu 2y ago
  They said it's not > We have something much older then Bitcoin https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40159144 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40159144
  - 1oooqooq 2y ago
    it's their artisanal trust me token. at least it's not monetary (yet). the technical description is a pull based delayed ledger. the paper they link just show that by harming newcomers to the network you reduce free loaders, but they interpret that it solves fraud.

> Earn seeding tokens How can this be possible in a non-centralized manner?

by runeks 2y ago

> Earn seeding tokens How can this be possible in a non-centralized manner?

Why wouldn't it be possible? My friends know what when I show up to a party, I usually bring a drink or a dish or something. There's no centralized database for this, they know because they've eaten and drank those things. We don't use tokens to keep track of this, but we could. The situation seems similar with seeding. It's just not commonly done because you have to build and maintain a web of trust for it to to work, and that's often a level of user responsibility that's hard to cultivate. But if you need that web of trust anyway (e.g. for filtering out ads ad other disinformation) then you might as well use it for consensus about who is a good citizen and who is not. (I have no idea if this is Tribler's approach, it's just on my mind because I've been designing something quite like Tribler, and it's my approach.)

yieldcrv 2y ago

It’s pretty easy to build an emission or reward schedule into the rules of a decentralized network when the software that nodes are running see another compliant node, they expect for it to be rewarded so they all conform to the additional issuance of tokens you just need to make sure that sybil attack attempts improve the network, as the attacker adds more nodes to earn more

hanniabu 2y ago

With blockchain, but HN would hate to hear there's a usecase

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fwip 2y ago

It uses Bitcoin

hanniabu 2y ago
They said it's not > We have something much older then Bitcoin https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40159144 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40159144
- 1oooqooq 2y ago
  it's their artisanal trust me token. at least it's not monetary (yet). the technical description is a pull based delayed ledger. the paper they link just show that by harming newcomers to the network you reduce free loaders, but they interpret that it solves fraud.