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It’s an annoying trend that people extrgrate to make a point. Anything they don’t like is a dark pattern or scam or something. It’s the sort of moral grandstan
by that_guy_iain 2y ago
It’s an annoying trend that people extrgrate to make a point. Anything they don’t like is a dark pattern or scam or something.
It’s the sort of moral grandstanding that developers do about stupid small stuff that annoys me about working in tech. Like somehow it’s a bad thing for a newsletter platform to optimise to help their customers grow.
And really Substack doesn’t just fill up your subscriber counts it heavily filters out bad sign ups and whatnot. My subscriber count on my brand new newsletter is at 20 but looking at the traffic stats it’s blocked out 30-40 “subscribers” and from my experience on other newsletter those will be fake emails where people put in insults because they’re offended you asked them if they would like to subscribe.
- unclebucknasty 2y ago>It’s an annoying trend that people extrgrate to make a point. Anything they don’t like is a dark pattern or scam or something. OTOH, some models really are friendlier to customers and can lead to better experiences.
- that_guy_iain 2y agoOptimising your landing page, changing button colours, etc are not dark patterns. It's called good business.
- unclebucknasty 2y agoNot what people are referring to as dark patterns.
- that_guy_iain 2y agoIt is in this case.
- unclebucknasty 2y agoWhere? Don't see it.
- that_guy_iain 2y agoMaybe read the article then?
- unclebucknasty 2y agoI did. Nothing about buttons or landing pages. Maybe you read the wrong article.
- rpdillon 2y ago> Like somehow it’s a bad thing for a newsletter platform to optimise to help their customers grow. > where people put in insults because they’re offended you asked them if they would like to subscribe. It's a bad thing because people don't like the resulting UX, as your experience indicates. Interesting that Substack is aggressive enough in pushing folks to subscribe that they need to build subscription blocking because people hate the nagging so much they submit insulting email addresses. You would think this would be an indication to both Substack and their customers that the UX needs significant work.
- that_guy_iain 2y agoNot really, considering my example of insults and stuff come from different platforms. But fake sign ups is a problem for any platform. Why do you think every sign up system confirms your email? People are assholes.