Since it's a central to the interview and not well explained, here's a link to Barthelme's short story "Some of Us Had Been Threatening Our Friend Colby": http

Since it's a central to the interview and not well explained, here's a link to Barthelme's short story "Some of Us Had Been Threatening Our Friend Colby": https://web.mit.edu/jemorris/humor/gone.too.far https://web.mit.edu/jemorris/humor/gone.too.far It's very short, and very worth reading.