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Though the article (and one of the comments here) is suggesting Covid could be the source, I don't think we should discount the impact of simple lockdowns and w

Though the article (and one of the comments here) is suggesting Covid could be the source, I don't think we should discount the impact of simple lockdowns and work from home could have on exercise rates, and potentially diet as well. Of course, Covid itself also increased mortality in an already vulnerable population. Basically, we need more data past 2021 to understand the trend.

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nytesky 3y ago
Commuting has long been known to be detrimental to health. Exercise may have ticked up since walking became much more common. People were “locked down” at least in the US for like a bad winter season. Maybe diet was a problem (too much sourdough carbs) But if it’s not COVID, I would look at isolation. Perhaps the young deaths were especially isolated, and we have all suffered from the epidemic of loneliness over the last half decade.
- xboxnolifes 3y ago
  > Commuting has long been known to be detrimental to health. Commuting that isn't walking/biking.*
joegibbs 3y ago
There's a jump in Covid times but you can see on the graph that it started around 2011, which is about the same time US life expectancy started stagnating. It's interesting that Australia has a life expectancy of 83 years, 7 years more than America (before Covid this was 4 years, and I expect America to bounce back up because it affected elderly people more). Australians are only 4% less obese and 4% less overweight than Americans. However the percentage of Australians that are morbidly obese (BMI over 35) is 9.4%, and for Americans that's 18% - so the obese people in America are more likely to be really obese. Alternatively it could be to do with Americans being less likely to go to the doctor or have operations done due to higher healthcare costs.
- pedalpete 3y ago
  I live in Australia!! Though I'm from Canada originally. When I first started travelling to Australia in 2000, I was amazed by how small all the food was. Plates where tiny, drinks were 1/3 the size of North American (except beer). Australia has caught up, and serving sizes have increased to near North American sizes. I wonder what affect this will have on Australian life expectancy in the next decade.
refurb 3y ago
Under 45? Heart failure is exceedingly rare. Heart failure is not the same as coronary artery disease (I.e. what people typically think of when they think of people who get heart attacks). While it can be related. Hypertension, diabetes, etc can all contribute to heart failure.
thefz 3y ago
Working from home has led me to exercise way more than before, as I have 2+ hours free daily thanks to not having to commute.

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nytesky 3y ago

Commuting has long been known to be detrimental to health. Exercise may have ticked up since walking became much more common. People were “locked down” at least in the US for like a bad winter season. Maybe diet was a problem (too much sourdough carbs) But if it’s not COVID, I would look at isolation. Perhaps the young deaths were especially isolated, and we have all suffered from the epidemic of loneliness over the last half decade.

xboxnolifes 3y ago
> Commuting has long been known to be detrimental to health. Commuting that isn't walking/biking.*

joegibbs 3y ago

There's a jump in Covid times but you can see on the graph that it started around 2011, which is about the same time US life expectancy started stagnating. It's interesting that Australia has a life expectancy of 83 years, 7 years more than America (before Covid this was 4 years, and I expect America to bounce back up because it affected elderly people more). Australians are only 4% less obese and 4% less overweight than Americans. However the percentage of Australians that are morbidly obese (BMI over 35) is 9.4%, and for Americans that's 18% - so the obese people in America are more likely to be really obese. Alternatively it could be to do with Americans being less likely to go to the doctor or have operations done due to higher healthcare costs.

pedalpete 3y ago
I live in Australia!! Though I'm from Canada originally. When I first started travelling to Australia in 2000, I was amazed by how small all the food was. Plates where tiny, drinks were 1/3 the size of North American (except beer). Australia has caught up, and serving sizes have increased to near North American sizes. I wonder what affect this will have on Australian life expectancy in the next decade.

refurb 3y ago

Under 45? Heart failure is exceedingly rare. Heart failure is not the same as coronary artery disease (I.e. what people typically think of when they think of people who get heart attacks). While it can be related. Hypertension, diabetes, etc can all contribute to heart failure.

thefz 3y ago

Working from home has led me to exercise way more than before, as I have 2+ hours free daily thanks to not having to commute.