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> What is the nature of the risk? The risk is information warfare. It's difficult to know whether they've used it for that purpose yet, because there's a lack
by hackerlight 2y ago
> What is the nature of the risk?
The risk is information warfare. It's difficult to know whether they've used it for that purpose yet, because there's a lack of transparency, which is actually part of the problem. But regardless, the risk is unacceptable, especially if the Taiwan or Philippines/Vietnam situations boil over. There's no historical precedent of a rival having such massive control over domestic consumption of information. The one thing we do know from the history of conflict is that all available tools will get used for that purpose (e.g. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8197 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8197).
- mistermann 2y agoOk, at least you understand the real problem. I don't disagree, but for clarity, you appreciate this is totally contrary to the (formerly) popular "free speech" meme that used to be a source of pride for Americans? Isn't it a bit funny that America can't manage to educate[1] its citizens so they are resilient to propaganda? Do you think it is all that difficult to do, if the government set it as a priority"? [1] It's worse: they can't even try to. To me, this is peak hilarity, doubly so when combined with the conversations in this thread...which themselves are a consequence of the root problem. Oh my, the layers of irony.
- ergocoder 2y ago> Isn't it a bit funny that America can't manage to educate[1] its citizens so they are resilient to propaganda? Since you imply it's not difficult to do, which country has educated their citizens to be resilient to propaganda?
- mistermann 2y agoDoes a lack of prior instances of something being done guarantee that it is difficult? Don't forget: to accomplish something, you (typically) must first try.
- ergocoder 2y agoThe answer is none then.
- mistermann 2y agoWas there something about my question that you did not like, so you chose to answer a different one?
- ergocoder 2y agoIt's the same one. The answer is yeah it is difficult. It is evident based on the fact that no country in the history hasn't been able to achieve. "Making citizens to be resilient to propaganda"? While we should try to do our best, it's also not mutually exclusive to remove bad propaganda. Yet you make it sound like the 2 actions are mutually exclusive for some reason.
- mistermann 2y ago> It is evident based on the fact that no country in the history hasn't been able to achieve. How many have tried, and what did they try? Contrast this with the attention and funding the war machine gets, or the science machinery.
- hackerlight 2y agoCheck this out: https://twitter.com/BeenThereCap/status/1783120159101628446 https://twitter.com/BeenThereCap/status/1783120159101628446 Regarding education, we should do that too. It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.
- mistermann 2y agoDo you believe that analysis to be without flaw, and potential for flaw?
- hackerlight 2y agohttps://twitter.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1783954180970815987 https://twitter.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/17839541809708159... There might be flaws or other explanations. This is just tentative evidence that should push you in one direction more than the other.
- mistermann 2y agoAre you saying that it is a fact that it should necessarily point me in the direction that you think it should? It is literally not possible that the actions being taken toward TikTok are not a net good idea?