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No one who has taken a large dose of pure MDMA is shocked by this, or much of the positive research that is coming out about its impact in a controlled environm

No one who has taken a large dose of pure MDMA is shocked by this, or much of the positive research that is coming out about its impact in a controlled environment. Can you abuse MDMA? You sure can. But there are people who overindulge in a lot of things that cause harm, and some of them aren't even drugs (Gambling springs to mind). I think the fact that we're doing this research is progress longoverdue.

jorl17 3y ago
The research is focused on _how_ it works, rather than _if_ it works. The abstract itself begins by stating that "MDMA (3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine) is a psychoactive drug with powerful prosocial effects." I had the same reaction reading the title :) (Although from what I gather, people have been taking supplements of 5-HTP to deal with the "post-MDMA depression" for ages, so...)
- pizza234 3y ago
  > The research is focused on _how_ it works, rather than _if_ it works True, but it also has this very perplexing statement: > The assertion that it does function as a robust “empathogen” is largely based on anecdotal clinical reports, which conflict with several human subject studies that have commonly failed to reveal robust empathogenic effects. For example, MDMA appears to only mildly potentiate empathy (5, 6) in the multifaceted empathy test, in which subjects are asked to self-report levels of arousal after exposure to emotionally charged images Such assertion is largely based on million of actual users. The scientists' observation is completely disconnected from reality, to the point of being false; given this, I question very radically the validity of the referenced research.
  - zer00eyz 3y ago
    >>> in the multifaceted empathy test Histeria, electo shock, ice pick lobotomies, qualudes (addictive), benzodiazepines (addictive, nasty withdrawal), MAOI's (dont eat leftover or you will die), SSRI's (research is now showing that, these have no better outcome than placebo, and have nasty side effects and withdrawal), And more Benzodiaspines. > The scientists' observation is completely disconnected from reality, to the point of being false; given this, I question very radically the validity of the referenced research. And the research for Psychology and Psychiatry? Well that's at the heart of the reproducibility crisis. Not only in terms of replication, but outright fraud. There are people out there with disorders who can benefit from therapy and modern pharmacology. The fact that a large part of the industry is, for lack of a better word, rotten should shock no one.

jorl17 3y ago

The research is focused on _how_ it works, rather than _if_ it works. The abstract itself begins by stating that "MDMA (3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine) is a psychoactive drug with powerful prosocial effects." I had the same reaction reading the title :) (Although from what I gather, people have been taking supplements of 5-HTP to deal with the "post-MDMA depression" for ages, so...)

pizza234 3y ago
> The research is focused on _how_ it works, rather than _if_ it works True, but it also has this very perplexing statement: > The assertion that it does function as a robust “empathogen” is largely based on anecdotal clinical reports, which conflict with several human subject studies that have commonly failed to reveal robust empathogenic effects. For example, MDMA appears to only mildly potentiate empathy (5, 6) in the multifaceted empathy test, in which subjects are asked to self-report levels of arousal after exposure to emotionally charged images Such assertion is largely based on million of actual users. The scientists' observation is completely disconnected from reality, to the point of being false; given this, I question very radically the validity of the referenced research.
- zer00eyz 3y ago
  >>> in the multifaceted empathy test Histeria, electo shock, ice pick lobotomies, qualudes (addictive), benzodiazepines (addictive, nasty withdrawal), MAOI's (dont eat leftover or you will die), SSRI's (research is now showing that, these have no better outcome than placebo, and have nasty side effects and withdrawal), And more Benzodiaspines. > The scientists' observation is completely disconnected from reality, to the point of being false; given this, I question very radically the validity of the referenced research. And the research for Psychology and Psychiatry? Well that's at the heart of the reproducibility crisis. Not only in terms of replication, but outright fraud. There are people out there with disorders who can benefit from therapy and modern pharmacology. The fact that a large part of the industry is, for lack of a better word, rotten should shock no one.