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I think that it really depends on your relationship with music. I’m no longer in my 30s and still find new music all the time. I wonder why parents consistentl

I think that it really depends on your relationship with music. I’m no longer in my 30s and still find new music all the time. I wonder why parents consistently listening to older music than their childless peers

coldtea 2y ago
New-new music, or just new acts in the same genres that you liked in your early 20s?
- reducesuffering 2y ago
  Maybe I missed this in the article but I agree this is a major consideration. I find a lot of people might like "new" music but it's very much a slight riff on stuff they liked a long time ago. As a 30yo, good luck introducing anyone in the 25+ category to new albums that actually experiment into novel sounds and become the music of the current 20yo generation. It's a little sad too because the internet unlocked so much "bedroom producer" potential from the entire world where before you had to be musically trained or get a lot more lucky. There's actually a talent explosion right now.
  - dublinben 2y ago
    >good luck introducing anyone in the 25+ category to new albums that actually experiment into novel sounds and become the music of the current 20yo generation Both here and in the article there's a conflation of "new music" with "contemporary mainstream popular" which seems invalid. Is the Billboard Hot 100 any more or less innovative in 2024 than it was in 2004, or 1974? I think that most "mainstream" music is precisely "a slight riff on stuff [written] a long time ago." You have to go outside of the mainstream to find music and artists that are experimenting with novel sounds, just like you did in decades past. As you say, there's been an explosion of independent creativity, thanks to the Internet. There's no reason for anyone who is interested in music to listen to the same old mainstream dreck.
    - coldtea 2y ago
      >Is the Billboard Hot 100 any more or less innovative in 2024 than it was in 2004, or 1974? Yes, amazingly less so. Less innovative and less diverse music styles.
- chx 2y ago
  This rapidly becomes an exercise in classifying music which I always felt a bit silly. Try to put God Is an Astronaut in a genre, I wish you good fortune in the wars to come. https://youtu.be/ZmWYCIZhBgk https://youtu.be/ZmWYCIZhBgk at one time Wikipedia had them as "Post-rock, electronica, ambient, Space rock" then just gave up and labelled them as post-rock. My brother and I, less than two years apart in age, when we were 18 years old listened to the same music, power metal, mostly. By now, some three decades later he have veered off in a direction of high BPM while I am deep in folk metal land sometimes leaving metal behind. Where does folk metal end and where does (neo)folk rock start? I do not know and I couldn't care less if I tried. I simply enjoy https://youtu.be/mQWmryiIcxY https://youtu.be/mQWmryiIcxY a lot without trying to label it.
bojan 2y ago
From the perspective of this parent - toddlers are loud. They make so much noise, continuously, either by playing or talking or, more often, both at the same time, that when I get a moment of silence I don't want to ruin it by playing music. I just want to hear nothing for a while, or chat with my partner in peace. Only in the last few months, with the youngest being almost 5, do I feel the urge to listen to the music again - and I have a 10 year gap to catch up with.
- floxy 2y ago
  ...And you are listening to music for them. Although "C is for Conifers" (by They Might Be Giants) is pretty good by toddler-music-genre standards.
theodpHN 2y ago
Wonder if this has gotten worse as music listening has become more of a private thing (solitary ipod/iphone listening). prior to that, i think many parents (myself included) found themselves exposed to lots of new music simply because it was hard to avoid not hearing whatever their children/spouses were listening to at home or in the car.
SamBam 2y ago
For me it's the lack of time or headspace to keep up, and the lack of time to go to concerts. Pre kids we did a lot more of that.
- noashavit 2y ago
  That makes sense!
imp0cat 2y ago
> I wonder why parents consistently listening to older music than their childless peers Oh that one is easy. They probably watch Bluey with their children. That show features stuff by Rossini, Offenbach, Tchaikovsky, Holst (Jupiter!), etc... which then gets played in the house because it's so much fun. I know my kid can't stop dancing when John Ryan's Polka (Bluey episode Fairies) is on! :) https://www.reddit.com/r/bluey/comments/ph5sot/whats_your_favourite_use_of_music_in_bluey/?rdt=52217 https://www.reddit.com/r/bluey/comments/ph5sot/whats_your_fa... It's weird that a kid's show can make the entire crave Rossini, but so is life, just roll with it! :)

coldtea 2y ago

New-new music, or just new acts in the same genres that you liked in your early 20s?

reducesuffering 2y ago
Maybe I missed this in the article but I agree this is a major consideration. I find a lot of people might like "new" music but it's very much a slight riff on stuff they liked a long time ago. As a 30yo, good luck introducing anyone in the 25+ category to new albums that actually experiment into novel sounds and become the music of the current 20yo generation. It's a little sad too because the internet unlocked so much "bedroom producer" potential from the entire world where before you had to be musically trained or get a lot more lucky. There's actually a talent explosion right now.
- dublinben 2y ago
  >good luck introducing anyone in the 25+ category to new albums that actually experiment into novel sounds and become the music of the current 20yo generation Both here and in the article there's a conflation of "new music" with "contemporary mainstream popular" which seems invalid. Is the Billboard Hot 100 any more or less innovative in 2024 than it was in 2004, or 1974? I think that most "mainstream" music is precisely "a slight riff on stuff [written] a long time ago." You have to go outside of the mainstream to find music and artists that are experimenting with novel sounds, just like you did in decades past. As you say, there's been an explosion of independent creativity, thanks to the Internet. There's no reason for anyone who is interested in music to listen to the same old mainstream dreck.
  - coldtea 2y ago
    >Is the Billboard Hot 100 any more or less innovative in 2024 than it was in 2004, or 1974? Yes, amazingly less so. Less innovative and less diverse music styles.
chx 2y ago
This rapidly becomes an exercise in classifying music which I always felt a bit silly. Try to put God Is an Astronaut in a genre, I wish you good fortune in the wars to come. https://youtu.be/ZmWYCIZhBgk https://youtu.be/ZmWYCIZhBgk at one time Wikipedia had them as "Post-rock, electronica, ambient, Space rock" then just gave up and labelled them as post-rock. My brother and I, less than two years apart in age, when we were 18 years old listened to the same music, power metal, mostly. By now, some three decades later he have veered off in a direction of high BPM while I am deep in folk metal land sometimes leaving metal behind. Where does folk metal end and where does (neo)folk rock start? I do not know and I couldn't care less if I tried. I simply enjoy https://youtu.be/mQWmryiIcxY https://youtu.be/mQWmryiIcxY a lot without trying to label it.

bojan 2y ago

From the perspective of this parent - toddlers are loud. They make so much noise, continuously, either by playing or talking or, more often, both at the same time, that when I get a moment of silence I don't want to ruin it by playing music. I just want to hear nothing for a while, or chat with my partner in peace. Only in the last few months, with the youngest being almost 5, do I feel the urge to listen to the music again - and I have a 10 year gap to catch up with.

floxy 2y ago
...And you are listening to music for them. Although "C is for Conifers" (by They Might Be Giants) is pretty good by toddler-music-genre standards.

theodpHN 2y ago

Wonder if this has gotten worse as music listening has become more of a private thing (solitary ipod/iphone listening). prior to that, i think many parents (myself included) found themselves exposed to lots of new music simply because it was hard to avoid not hearing whatever their children/spouses were listening to at home or in the car.

SamBam 2y ago

For me it's the lack of time or headspace to keep up, and the lack of time to go to concerts. Pre kids we did a lot more of that.

noashavit 2y ago
That makes sense!

imp0cat 2y ago

> I wonder why parents consistently listening to older music than their childless peers Oh that one is easy. They probably watch Bluey with their children. That show features stuff by Rossini, Offenbach, Tchaikovsky, Holst (Jupiter!), etc... which then gets played in the house because it's so much fun. I know my kid can't stop dancing when John Ryan's Polka (Bluey episode Fairies) is on! :) https://www.reddit.com/r/bluey/comments/ph5sot/whats_your_favourite_use_of_music_in_bluey/?rdt=52217 https://www.reddit.com/r/bluey/comments/ph5sot/whats_your_fa... It's weird that a kid's show can make the entire crave Rossini, but so is life, just roll with it! :)