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Well I'm in my 50s, and I mostly stopped finding new music when record labels, streaming, and social media destroyed the prospects for people who would otherwis

Well I'm in my 50s, and I mostly stopped finding new music when record labels, streaming, and social media destroyed the prospects for people who would otherwise make that new music for me to find. New stuff still arrives (you're not going to predict that me-at-15-loving-Megadeth will much later also love Billie Eilish or Gin Wigmore or Mirel Wagner or ...) but most "new music" is garbage by the standards set by about 50 years of music (much of that before I was alive and thus well before my "peak influence"). I suspect the "findings" of the article suffer from environmental effects that weren't considered/controlled.

ryandrake 2y ago
I'm closing in on 50s, and what I miss the most out of the music I grew up with are actual cohesive albums that work as a single artistic unit. I think the 70s were the golden age of albums, and then slowly we moved towards the world of albums being just random collections of tracks, with one or two good ones and the rest "filler." Now, do many modern musicians even bother to release albums anymore? Seems like it's just track after track now.
- xoac 2y ago
  I mean depends on what you are listening to. PLENTY of albums are being made.
- pcthrowaway 2y ago
  You might really like the new Cindy Lee double album[1]. The artist decided to only release it as one long video on Youtube instead of separating the songs so it can be played by streaming companies. For people who want to purchase the album, they can purchase the entire album, or none of it. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LJi5na897Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LJi5na897Y
andrewmthomas87 2y ago
> but most "new music" is garbage by the standards set by about 50 years of music How so? What are these standards?
- coldtea 2y ago
  Infantilized lyrics, melodies, and harmonies, for starters.
  - gwill 2y ago
    i think defining what "new" means would help clarity this. perhaps what you said is true with new mainstream music from large labels, but none of that applies to "new" music that i listen to, at least that i'm aware of.
    - coldtea 2y ago
      New popular music. The mainstream went from quite decent to crap within the last 20 years or so. One could always find stuff to listen to their personal echo bubble, but not as much in the wider shared pop culture space.
      - goosejuice 2y ago
        A peek at billboard 100 from 2004 might surprise you. Same themes, new style and production. That said the rise of trap, particulary the repetitve autotuned bars, certainly hasn't helped in the lyricism dept. You'll of course find great talent in every generation. While I don't like the majority of the current top billboard there's some talent behind those tracks.
        coldtea 2y ago
        >A peek at billboard 100 from 2004 might surprise you. Same themes, new style and production. That era is already after it has been going downhill.
doublepg23 2y ago
Have you tried adapting to newer discovery methods like http://rateyourmusic.com/ http://rateyourmusic.com/ or http://last.fm/ http://last.fm/ or subreddits like reddit.com/r/LetsTalkMusic , reddit.com/r/IndieHeads , reddit.com/r/HipHopHeads ? Perhaps even "4chan /mu/ charts"?

ryandrake 2y ago

I'm closing in on 50s, and what I miss the most out of the music I grew up with are actual cohesive albums that work as a single artistic unit. I think the 70s were the golden age of albums, and then slowly we moved towards the world of albums being just random collections of tracks, with one or two good ones and the rest "filler." Now, do many modern musicians even bother to release albums anymore? Seems like it's just track after track now.

xoac 2y ago
I mean depends on what you are listening to. PLENTY of albums are being made.
pcthrowaway 2y ago
You might really like the new Cindy Lee double album[1]. The artist decided to only release it as one long video on Youtube instead of separating the songs so it can be played by streaming companies. For people who want to purchase the album, they can purchase the entire album, or none of it. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LJi5na897Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LJi5na897Y

andrewmthomas87 2y ago

> but most "new music" is garbage by the standards set by about 50 years of music How so? What are these standards?

coldtea 2y ago
Infantilized lyrics, melodies, and harmonies, for starters.
- gwill 2y ago
  i think defining what "new" means would help clarity this. perhaps what you said is true with new mainstream music from large labels, but none of that applies to "new" music that i listen to, at least that i'm aware of.
  - coldtea 2y ago
    New popular music. The mainstream went from quite decent to crap within the last 20 years or so. One could always find stuff to listen to their personal echo bubble, but not as much in the wider shared pop culture space.
    - goosejuice 2y ago
      A peek at billboard 100 from 2004 might surprise you. Same themes, new style and production. That said the rise of trap, particulary the repetitve autotuned bars, certainly hasn't helped in the lyricism dept. You'll of course find great talent in every generation. While I don't like the majority of the current top billboard there's some talent behind those tracks.
      - coldtea 2y ago
        >A peek at billboard 100 from 2004 might surprise you. Same themes, new style and production. That era is already after it has been going downhill.

doublepg23 2y ago

Have you tried adapting to newer discovery methods like http://rateyourmusic.com/ http://rateyourmusic.com/ or http://last.fm/ http://last.fm/ or subreddits like reddit.com/r/LetsTalkMusic , reddit.com/r/IndieHeads , reddit.com/r/HipHopHeads ? Perhaps even "4chan /mu/ charts"?