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Thanks for digging these out. It definitely would be interesting to look at this dataset, because there are some parts of the study I wasn't expecting. For inst

Thanks for digging these out. It definitely would be interesting to look at this dataset, because there are some parts of the study I wasn't expecting. For instance, the participants could report more than one substance during their experience -- I had assumed single drug use for the session -- where 10% indicated cannabis use. The only times I've seen people on psychedelics go from "everything is great" to "wow wtf is going on" has been after they smoked weed while a couple hours into an LSD trip. They also didn't seem to have an option for alcohol use, which seems like an important factor if we're collecting data on mixed drug use. I'd even be interested in tobacco use, it's certainly a powerful drug and would likely be involved in most ayahuasca ceremonies. Also was surprised that 26% of people had no idea what their dosage was. That seems really irresponsible. Anyways, thanks again, interesting data and would love to be able to look at it more!

reaperman 3y ago
> Also was surprised that 26% of people had no idea what their dosage was. That seems really irresponsible. I agree that it's irresponsible, but personally I was surprised it wasn't way higher. I have a 0.1mg resolution analytical balance and for my psychonaut acquaintances/friends I'm almost always the very first person to introduce them to consistently weighing their doses to help start building a sense of what's appropriate for them. Even for people who've been using them regularly for >10 years. And no one I know has ever quantitatively tested the purity+dose of their drugs either, which is relatively "easy" through http://energycontrol-international.org http://energycontrol-international.org (a few do reagent testing to test for contaminants but it doesn't tell you much about % purity or dose) Note also that with mushrooms, weighing the fresh or dried mushrooms gives you very little information on your psilocybin/psilocin dose, different strains can vary by two orders of magnitude and even within the same strain you might find the strongest sample has 5x the concentration of the weakest sample. https://www.copsychedeliccup.com/2023-psychedelic-cup-data https://www.copsychedeliccup.com/2023-psychedelic-cup-data
- denton-scratch 3y ago
  A 0.1mg-resolution balance would let you measure your dose to the nearest 100 microgrammes. That gives you just 3 gradations between no dose at all, and a fairly "standard" 300 mikes.
  - reaperman 3y ago
    Yes it isn't appropriate for pure LSD but is fine for most other psychedelics, or dilute LSD of a known, tested, concentration. TFA is not limited to pure LSD.

reaperman 3y ago

> Also was surprised that 26% of people had no idea what their dosage was. That seems really irresponsible. I agree that it's irresponsible, but personally I was surprised it wasn't way higher. I have a 0.1mg resolution analytical balance and for my psychonaut acquaintances/friends I'm almost always the very first person to introduce them to consistently weighing their doses to help start building a sense of what's appropriate for them. Even for people who've been using them regularly for >10 years. And no one I know has ever quantitatively tested the purity+dose of their drugs either, which is relatively "easy" through http://energycontrol-international.org http://energycontrol-international.org (a few do reagent testing to test for contaminants but it doesn't tell you much about % purity or dose) Note also that with mushrooms, weighing the fresh or dried mushrooms gives you very little information on your psilocybin/psilocin dose, different strains can vary by two orders of magnitude and even within the same strain you might find the strongest sample has 5x the concentration of the weakest sample. https://www.copsychedeliccup.com/2023-psychedelic-cup-data https://www.copsychedeliccup.com/2023-psychedelic-cup-data

denton-scratch 3y ago
A 0.1mg-resolution balance would let you measure your dose to the nearest 100 microgrammes. That gives you just 3 gradations between no dose at all, and a fairly "standard" 300 mikes.
- reaperman 3y ago
  Yes it isn't appropriate for pure LSD but is fine for most other psychedelics, or dilute LSD of a known, tested, concentration. TFA is not limited to pure LSD.