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That's the oppressor/oppressed narrative for any such difference. Hitler came to the same conclusion, and decided to do something about it. Various communists r

That's the oppressor/oppressed narrative for any such difference. Hitler came to the same conclusion, and decided to do something about it. Various communists revolutionaries have used the same kind of thinking to get rid of the ruling classes in their countries after the revolution. But if you consider it this way: The Nobel price was given mostly to white people (including Jews) until about 1970. That's a factor of 10 already. Then you consider that Ashkenazi Jews have an average IQ of about 115 vs other Europeans somewhere south of 100 on average. If the standard deviation is a constant 15, a population with a mean of 100 has about 0.4% of the population with an IQ >140. Increase the mean to 115, and that grows to about 5%. That's another factor of 10. And the gap widens as the threshold increases. This seems to fit the 110x almost perfectly. Disclaimer: I have no Jewish ancestry that I'm aware of. Edit: Also, to my knowledge, the Nobel committee has NOT been dominated by Jews.

meflou 2y ago
13% of the world population have an IQ higher than 117. That means that there is a billion non jew that has an IQ higher than the average Ashkenazi. Thus your arguments makes no sense. Even if every single jewish person had a high IQ, they will be less than 1% of the pool.
- lapphi 2y ago
  The selection pool is not the global population, as stated in the previous comment.
- trashtester 2y ago
  Well, there is the part about the selection pool, but there is also how a normal distribution behaves far out on the tail. Most Nobel Laureates in the sciences are highly intelligent, so they exist on that tail. Basically, if you sample from the top 13% from a normal distribution with (mean, std)=(100,15) you get fewer with 140+ than if you sample from one with (mean, std)=(115,15), and the higher the intelligence, the bigger the difference will be. This follows from the squaring of the exponential term in the standard distribution. While it's possible that the shape or standard deviations for various population doesn't match my assumptions, but if they do, the observed number of Nobel prizes given to Jews is very close to what one would expect.

meflou 2y ago

13% of the world population have an IQ higher than 117. That means that there is a billion non jew that has an IQ higher than the average Ashkenazi. Thus your arguments makes no sense. Even if every single jewish person had a high IQ, they will be less than 1% of the pool.

lapphi 2y ago
The selection pool is not the global population, as stated in the previous comment.
trashtester 2y ago
Well, there is the part about the selection pool, but there is also how a normal distribution behaves far out on the tail. Most Nobel Laureates in the sciences are highly intelligent, so they exist on that tail. Basically, if you sample from the top 13% from a normal distribution with (mean, std)=(100,15) you get fewer with 140+ than if you sample from one with (mean, std)=(115,15), and the higher the intelligence, the bigger the difference will be. This follows from the squaring of the exponential term in the standard distribution. While it's possible that the shape or standard deviations for various population doesn't match my assumptions, but if they do, the observed number of Nobel prizes given to Jews is very close to what one would expect.