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So you're saying the USA is better and thus it never needs to be compared in any aspect related to 'freedom'? That's a nice way of never having to challenge you
by Thiez 2y ago
So you're saying the USA is better and thus it never needs to be compared in any aspect related to 'freedom'? That's a nice way of never having to challenge your assumptions.
- j0ba 2y agoNo, I'm saying what I said in OP
- phone8675309 2y agoHoly fucking strawman, Batman!
- ok123456 2y agoIt's not a strawman. The US espouses freedom of speech, and TikTok is comparable to running a printing press. It also espouses a general freedom to own and run private enterprises. This ban runs against both of those.
- phone8675309 2y ago> It's not a strawman. It is absolutely a strawman: > A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. Grandparent: Please, US doesn't need to prove anything w.r.t freedom vs. China. Parent: So you're saying the USA is better and thus it never needs to be compared in any aspect related to 'freedom'? Me: GP didn't say the USA never needs to be compared in any aspect related to freedom, they said _relative to China_ the US doesn't need to prove anything. It's objectively a strawman. That's separate from the issue of whether or not this infringes on the freedom of speech, but 1) freedom of speech in the US is not nor ever has been absolute with no limits and 2) this move absolutely deserves scrutiny.
- cscurmudgeon 2y agoHere you go. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices Enjoy the data.