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You complain about the USA regulating TikTok and then you wish it followed the EU model, which is more regulated? The EU is inching closer to effectively banni

You complain about the USA regulating TikTok and then you wish it followed the EU model, which is more regulated? The EU is inching closer to effectively banning US social media companies with their prohibitions on ads anyway. We may see region-specific social media at some point.

mrtksn 3y ago
Regulated means a framework of doing business, its not a ban. For example, the government can decide that car from now on have to use lead-free gasoline. That's not ban on cars, it means that from now on the cars should run lead-free. EU isn't banning American social media, its banning certain practices and if the American social media companies want to do business they simply don't do these things and they will be fine. Unless, you know, forcing Meta to sell to Luxotica or something.
- zeroonetwothree 3y ago
  TikTok isn’t banned, it is merely required to not be owned by a Chinese company. It’s possible this results in a de facto ban but we don’t know yet. Similarly, other regulations may become so onerous as to result in de facto bans. There’s not really a sharp distinction.
  - mrtksn 3y ago
    Not to be owned by Chinese today, not to be owned American/EU/UK etc. in the years to come around the globe.
    - FredPret 3y ago
      Good luck to everyone not on the US economic team
hmm37 3y ago
In the EU all social media companies have to comply to the same rules. This is normal "regulation". China also regulates all social media companies on whether or not they are willing to censor speech or not. This is also called normal "regulation" as it applies to all social media companies. No single social media is selected out and discriminated against. On the other hand, US is regulating Tiktok AND pretty much only Tiktok, which is breaking no laws except now this new one where part of its ownership is Chinese. This wouldn't look as farcical if the US forced facebook, twitter, etc. to comply with privacy issues, etc.
- zeroonetwothree 3y ago
  The US is requiring social media to not be owned by China. That seems to be a consistent rule for all companies.
  - mrtksn 3y ago
    Can't wait the not to be owned by USA/EU/UK rules spread out like wildfire. It will be especially interesting when Trump admin starts getting its way next year. The USA fucked up badly by pivoting into being fake China.
  - hmm37 3y ago
    Yes. It's the Chinese exclusion act all over again. We already been through this historically. Essentially a ban on race/ethnicity vs practice.
    - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > Chinese exclusion act all over again...a ban on race/ethnicity vs practice This is an incredibly bad-faith comparison. People of Chinese descent aren't being discriminated in any way by this bill. In the same way China blocking Google isn't an act of racism, this is putting restrictions on a foreign state which is acting belligerentlyt towards us. We required American companies to stop doing business with the Nazis when we went to war with them. (Though not a moment sooner.) That wasn't racism, it was strategic sense.

mrtksn 3y ago

Regulated means a framework of doing business, its not a ban. For example, the government can decide that car from now on have to use lead-free gasoline. That's not ban on cars, it means that from now on the cars should run lead-free. EU isn't banning American social media, its banning certain practices and if the American social media companies want to do business they simply don't do these things and they will be fine. Unless, you know, forcing Meta to sell to Luxotica or something.

zeroonetwothree 3y ago
TikTok isn’t banned, it is merely required to not be owned by a Chinese company. It’s possible this results in a de facto ban but we don’t know yet. Similarly, other regulations may become so onerous as to result in de facto bans. There’s not really a sharp distinction.
- mrtksn 3y ago
  Not to be owned by Chinese today, not to be owned American/EU/UK etc. in the years to come around the globe.
  - FredPret 3y ago
    Good luck to everyone not on the US economic team

hmm37 3y ago

In the EU all social media companies have to comply to the same rules. This is normal "regulation". China also regulates all social media companies on whether or not they are willing to censor speech or not. This is also called normal "regulation" as it applies to all social media companies. No single social media is selected out and discriminated against. On the other hand, US is regulating Tiktok AND pretty much only Tiktok, which is breaking no laws except now this new one where part of its ownership is Chinese. This wouldn't look as farcical if the US forced facebook, twitter, etc. to comply with privacy issues, etc.

zeroonetwothree 3y ago
The US is requiring social media to not be owned by China. That seems to be a consistent rule for all companies.
- mrtksn 3y ago
  Can't wait the not to be owned by USA/EU/UK rules spread out like wildfire. It will be especially interesting when Trump admin starts getting its way next year. The USA fucked up badly by pivoting into being fake China.
- hmm37 3y ago
  Yes. It's the Chinese exclusion act all over again. We already been through this historically. Essentially a ban on race/ethnicity vs practice.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > Chinese exclusion act all over again...a ban on race/ethnicity vs practice This is an incredibly bad-faith comparison. People of Chinese descent aren't being discriminated in any way by this bill. In the same way China blocking Google isn't an act of racism, this is putting restrictions on a foreign state which is acting belligerentlyt towards us. We required American companies to stop doing business with the Nazis when we went to war with them. (Though not a moment sooner.) That wasn't racism, it was strategic sense.