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From the world where the USA was the bastion of free speech which was condemning countries like Turkey for blocking social media to a world where the USA blocks
by mrtksn 3y ago
From the world where the USA was the bastion of free speech which was condemning countries like Turkey for blocking social media to a world where the USA blocks social media. I guess when the reasons are about money(i.e. Chinese block American companies) its all good because it can't be about national security since the countries who used to block American social media were condemned for doing it in the name of national security. Or is it?
Anyway, this bothers me so much. It wouldn't take that much time before every country adopts the China/North Korea model once the USA leads the way, because you know, other countries also have national security concerns. Maybe the Spanish or Irish will want to protect their citizens being indexed by the US for their support for Palestine? Who know, banning apps is a thing now. Maybe soon all country-to-country communications will need to go through monitored cables with keys provided for inspection(maybe businesses can get an exception with acquiring a license?).
We are progressively sliding in a segregated world and it is a scary world because the tech to control all the communications is in place.
I wish the USA took the EU model where its free but regulated.
The desire for control over communications and the support by the people disgusts me. You will end up finding out that the Chinese/North Korean way of doing things is not going to provide you with security or prosperity.
Very sad day.
- jvanderbot 3y agoTikTok will continue to function as normal. This is only a ban if bytedance does not divest, which they will.
- Thiez 3y agoWhat makes you say that? What do they possibly have to gain by selling their main product?
- zeroonetwothree 3y agoThey gain the full value of the product rather than the lower value it will achieve under the future ban.
- Thiez 3y agoThey get a possible future competitor and due to the forced nature of a potential sale are unlikely to get a fair price. Realistically they will not sell.
- FredPret 3y agoYou complain about the USA regulating TikTok and then you wish it followed the EU model, which is more regulated? The EU is inching closer to effectively banning US social media companies with their prohibitions on ads anyway. We may see region-specific social media at some point.
- mrtksn 3y agoRegulated means a framework of doing business, its not a ban. For example, the government can decide that car from now on have to use lead-free gasoline. That's not ban on cars, it means that from now on the cars should run lead-free. EU isn't banning American social media, its banning certain practices and if the American social media companies want to do business they simply don't do these things and they will be fine. Unless, you know, forcing Meta to sell to Luxotica or something.
- zeroonetwothree 3y agoTikTok isn’t banned, it is merely required to not be owned by a Chinese company. It’s possible this results in a de facto ban but we don’t know yet. Similarly, other regulations may become so onerous as to result in de facto bans. There’s not really a sharp distinction.
- hmm37 3y agoIn the EU all social media companies have to comply to the same rules. This is normal "regulation". China also regulates all social media companies on whether or not they are willing to censor speech or not. This is also called normal "regulation" as it applies to all social media companies. No single social media is selected out and discriminated against. On the other hand, US is regulating Tiktok AND pretty much only Tiktok, which is breaking no laws except now this new one where part of its ownership is Chinese. This wouldn't look as farcical if the US forced facebook, twitter, etc. to comply with privacy issues, etc.
- flohofwoe 3y agoTikTok is currently also under heavy scrunity in Europe. In any case, it's just tit for tat, pretty much all western social media platforms are banned in China, why should Chinese social media platforms be treated differently in the western world?
- mrtksn 3y ago>pretty much all social media platforms are banned in China, why should China have free reign in the western world? This is so out of touch that its hard to comprehend. Is it maybe because the supposedly fee people should have the freedom to choose what to use? Unlike you know, the Chinese or North Koreans? Fuck Chinese government, its not something that the "free" world implements. Stop copying the Chinese government. Is "freedom" only about businesses in the USA? What happen people's freedoms?
- helpfulContrib 3y ago[dead]