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Aside: zsh is standard on macs now, thanks to Apple's lawyers freaking out over bash license terms. If you want to change to industry standard bash (I did) then

by k310 3y ago

Aside: zsh is standard on macs now, thanks to Apple's lawyers freaking out over bash license terms. If you want to change to industry standard bash (I did) then there are three ways to do it. Short: csh -s /bin/bash Others: system settings or terminal settings. [1] https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/terminal/trml113/mac https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/terminal/trml113/mac [2] https://www.howtogeek.com/444596/how-to-change-the-default-shell-to-bash-in-macos-catalina/ https://www.howtogeek.com/444596/how-to-change-the-default-s... You may want to update bash via homebrew, or install the full set of Xcode command line tools. (But not full Xcode environment) xcode-select --install [3] https://www.macobserver.com/tips/how-to/install-xcode-command-line-tools/ https://www.macobserver.com/tips/how-to/install-xcode-comman...

runjake 3y ago
OP, I don't suggest you do this until you know what you're doing -- if ever. Just start with the built-in zsh. Nearly everything you learn with zsh will work the same over on bash and Linux. Also, I suggest resisting the urge of listening to those telling you to install oh-my-zsh. IMHO, it's a bloated plugins manager (no disrespect to robby <3) and introduces too much magic for beginners. Start basic.
euroderf 3y ago
> Apple's lawyers freaking out over bash license terms Interesting! Got a pointer ?
- dxbednarczyk 3y ago
  Since macOS Catalina, zsh has been the default. bash switched to GPLv3 awhile back, and to avoid licensing issues, Apple never updated bash past 3.2, which was already well over a decade old at the time. https://thenextweb.com/news/why-does-macos-catalina-use-zsh-instead-of-bash-licensing https://thenextweb.com/news/why-does-macos-catalina-use-zsh-...
listenfaster 3y ago
I was curious as to why someone would prefer bash over zsh i.e. what are the salient differences, and a brief search led me to this thorough answer: https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/361870/what-are-the-practical-differences-between-bash-and-zsh https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/361870/what-are-th... …but I’m still not sure there’s a material difference that would impact me, and I’ve been programming professionally since the mid 90s. If I can ask a side question, why would one switch back to bash from zsh?
- ksherlock 3y ago
  I prefer bash because I'm more used to it and I feel like zsh gets in the way. One example would be tab completion. When there are multiple matches, zsh will cycle through all possible matches (like cmd.exe, but slightly less annoying). Do Not Want.

by k310 3y ago

runjake 3y ago

OP, I don't suggest you do this until you know what you're doing -- if ever. Just start with the built-in zsh. Nearly everything you learn with zsh will work the same over on bash and Linux. Also, I suggest resisting the urge of listening to those telling you to install oh-my-zsh. IMHO, it's a bloated plugins manager (no disrespect to robby <3) and introduces too much magic for beginners. Start basic.

euroderf 3y ago

> Apple's lawyers freaking out over bash license terms Interesting! Got a pointer ?

dxbednarczyk 3y ago
Since macOS Catalina, zsh has been the default. bash switched to GPLv3 awhile back, and to avoid licensing issues, Apple never updated bash past 3.2, which was already well over a decade old at the time. https://thenextweb.com/news/why-does-macos-catalina-use-zsh-instead-of-bash-licensing https://thenextweb.com/news/why-does-macos-catalina-use-zsh-...

listenfaster 3y ago

I was curious as to why someone would prefer bash over zsh i.e. what are the salient differences, and a brief search led me to this thorough answer: https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/361870/what-are-the-practical-differences-between-bash-and-zsh https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/361870/what-are-th... …but I’m still not sure there’s a material difference that would impact me, and I’ve been programming professionally since the mid 90s. If I can ask a side question, why would one switch back to bash from zsh?

ksherlock 3y ago
I prefer bash because I'm more used to it and I feel like zsh gets in the way. One example would be tab completion. When there are multiple matches, zsh will cycle through all possible matches (like cmd.exe, but slightly less annoying). Do Not Want.