Sorry I should have been more clear, the title was based on a very popular post from a few days: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40105121 https://news.ycom

Sorry I should have been more clear, the title was based on a very popular post from a few days: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40105121 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40105121 I don't hate the industry, I am a PM and work with engineers daily but looking at what they work on, its not really something I personally desire professionally. The stuff that you describe though, is really only possible on the job. Like I don't imagine doing kubernetes for my apps. But I get the philosophy behind what you are trying to say and thank you for that.