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It seems obvious to me that anyone supportive of psychedelic treatment should be supportive of this kind of investigation. It does no one any good to suppress o

by jtr1 2y ago

It seems obvious to me that anyone supportive of psychedelic treatment should be supportive of this kind of investigation. It does no one any good to suppress or ignore stories of negative experiences with psychedelics. On the contrary, research like this can help develop better screening protocols or follow up treatment to help minimize these effects, or even treat people who are suffering long term negative impact from a difficult trip.

kiliantics 2y ago
While better understanding is certainly useful, the framing does seem a little unfair to me. It's not like other treatments don't have their downsides. Most people will tell you they don't like seeing the dentist but few would say it's not worth it. I've had bad trips on psychedelics and I actually think they tended to be some of the more beneficial ones for me in the long run.
- jtgverde 2y ago
  Seems unfair to compare a "bad trip to the dentist" to a person experiencing severe psychological effects liking being unable to make human connections and feelings of loneliness for 30 years Many of these experiences seem to have drastically impacted peoples lives in a very negative way. Much worse than a toothache!
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  - itishappy 2y ago
    What does it mean to have a "bad trip to the dentist"? A dentist can also cause decades of discomfort, but most trips (both drugs and dentists) turn out great!
amarant 2y ago
I agree! I also think it would make sense for people not supportive of psychedelic treatments to be interested in this, for various reasons, including what you said, and also as an educational tool too teach kids so they don't try it illegally, which seems to be a major concern among those not supportive of this kind of research. Full disclosure: I live in Sweden,a country famous among other things for it's Draconian stance on drugs, and I'm less than amused by the propaganda that passes for narcotics education here.

by jtr1 2y ago

kiliantics 2y ago

While better understanding is certainly useful, the framing does seem a little unfair to me. It's not like other treatments don't have their downsides. Most people will tell you they don't like seeing the dentist but few would say it's not worth it. I've had bad trips on psychedelics and I actually think they tended to be some of the more beneficial ones for me in the long run.

jtgverde 2y ago
Seems unfair to compare a "bad trip to the dentist" to a person experiencing severe psychological effects liking being unable to make human connections and feelings of loneliness for 30 years Many of these experiences seem to have drastically impacted peoples lives in a very negative way. Much worse than a toothache!
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- itishappy 2y ago
  What does it mean to have a "bad trip to the dentist"? A dentist can also cause decades of discomfort, but most trips (both drugs and dentists) turn out great!

amarant 2y ago

I agree! I also think it would make sense for people not supportive of psychedelic treatments to be interested in this, for various reasons, including what you said, and also as an educational tool too teach kids so they don't try it illegally, which seems to be a major concern among those not supportive of this kind of research. Full disclosure: I live in Sweden,a country famous among other things for it's Draconian stance on drugs, and I'm less than amused by the propaganda that passes for narcotics education here.