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Hundreds of Jewish demonstrators arrested after New York protest seder

22 points by teleforce 3y ago

NotYourLawyer 3y ago
1. These were anti-Israel Jewish protestors. 2. They “shut down a major thoroughfare.” Seems fine.
- koutetsu 3y ago
  I kind of understand how the 2nd point, "shut down a major thoroughfare.”, would lead to your conclusion, "seems fine", but I fail to understand what the 1st point has anything to do with it. Could you please help me understand? In the article, the protestors are labeled as "anti-war" protestors, and even though the specific war they are protesting involves Israel, I would not necessarily label them as "anti-Israel".
  - NotYourLawyer 3y ago
    Sorry, that was a bit steam of consciousness. The first point was just something I thought was interesting and surprising. Didn’t have much to do with my conclusion that locking them up seems fine.
- invalidname 3y ago
  Anti current Israeli government and specific policies. Not anti-Israel. Big difference that is missed in a lot of the other protests.
pavlov 3y ago
Earlier today a post by a Jewish student at Columbia University got 36 upvotes and was promptly flagged to oblivion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40141363 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40141363 I'm guessing the same will happen here. It seems like a lot of people don't want to hear that not all of the American Jewish community supports Israel's current actions without question, and that the consequences to protesters have been completely out of proportion (including arrests and evictions of students).
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- pvg 3y ago
  It seems like a lot of people don't want to hear You can just read the endless explanations of what happens to such stories instead of making one up some sinister one with no evidence.
nerdjon 3y ago
I am very curious to see how much this news spreads, since I have been in a lot of discussions that doing anything like this gets immediacy shut down as being "anti-semitic". And yet, I can't imagine anyone with a straight face will actually try to claim someone who is jewish is anti-semitic. I do find it concerning that it seems like we are using a lot more force for anyone protesting this (see the stuff with colleges yesterday) than normal? Or is it just getting more attention?
- dudefeliciano 3y ago
  > try to claim someone who is jewish is anti-semitic the "self deprecating jew" trope gets thrown around more and more often these days
- rob74 3y ago
  Actually the demonstrators are worried because of the antisemitism that the actions of the Israeli government incite: > "Our Judaism cannot be protected by the rampaging military of that ethno-state, for all that military does is sow sorrow and reap hatred, including hatred against us as Jews."
- drcongo 3y ago
  The Guardian and the right wing of the Labour party in the UK went through the looking glass of calling Jewish people anti-semitic a long time ago.
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22 points by teleforce 3y ago

NotYourLawyer 3y ago

1. These were anti-Israel Jewish protestors. 2. They “shut down a major thoroughfare.” Seems fine.

koutetsu 3y ago
I kind of understand how the 2nd point, "shut down a major thoroughfare.”, would lead to your conclusion, "seems fine", but I fail to understand what the 1st point has anything to do with it. Could you please help me understand? In the article, the protestors are labeled as "anti-war" protestors, and even though the specific war they are protesting involves Israel, I would not necessarily label them as "anti-Israel".
- NotYourLawyer 3y ago
  Sorry, that was a bit steam of consciousness. The first point was just something I thought was interesting and surprising. Didn’t have much to do with my conclusion that locking them up seems fine.
invalidname 3y ago
Anti current Israeli government and specific policies. Not anti-Israel. Big difference that is missed in a lot of the other protests.

pavlov 3y ago

Earlier today a post by a Jewish student at Columbia University got 36 upvotes and was promptly flagged to oblivion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40141363 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40141363 I'm guessing the same will happen here. It seems like a lot of people don't want to hear that not all of the American Jewish community supports Israel's current actions without question, and that the consequences to protesters have been completely out of proportion (including arrests and evictions of students).

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pvg 3y ago
It seems like a lot of people don't want to hear You can just read the endless explanations of what happens to such stories instead of making one up some sinister one with no evidence.

nerdjon 3y ago

I am very curious to see how much this news spreads, since I have been in a lot of discussions that doing anything like this gets immediacy shut down as being "anti-semitic". And yet, I can't imagine anyone with a straight face will actually try to claim someone who is jewish is anti-semitic. I do find it concerning that it seems like we are using a lot more force for anyone protesting this (see the stuff with colleges yesterday) than normal? Or is it just getting more attention?

dudefeliciano 3y ago
> try to claim someone who is jewish is anti-semitic the "self deprecating jew" trope gets thrown around more and more often these days
rob74 3y ago
Actually the demonstrators are worried because of the antisemitism that the actions of the Israeli government incite: > "Our Judaism cannot be protected by the rampaging military of that ethno-state, for all that military does is sow sorrow and reap hatred, including hatred against us as Jews."
drcongo 3y ago
The Guardian and the right wing of the Labour party in the UK went through the looking glass of calling Jewish people anti-semitic a long time ago.

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