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While poorly phrased, I think the concern is legit. As somebody who wants full control over my system, I don't want most of the applications I use on a day to d

by Sakos 2y ago

While poorly phrased, I think the concern is legit. As somebody who wants full control over my system, I don't want most of the applications I use on a day to day basis to have that same full control over my system. I'm a separate entity from the programs I use and the people who make the programs I use. The world is so much more complex than it used to be. I'd rather applications be limited in what they can access on my system by default, and a way to change it based on my needs. I don't want the programs to decide on their own what they're entitled to anymore. There's been a fundamental breach of trust by too many actors too many times.

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varispeed 2y ago
Yes, you should be able to run apps you want in a way you want. Not the way the manufacturer or OS vendor wants. Of course sandboxing options should be available, but if you wanted to run an app fully unrestricted, you should be able to. I am still quite upset that I cannot run call recording apps on Android as they can't obtain permission to record audio during a call. edit: Just to add, call recording is legal in my country. Years ago it saved me from losing money when insurance company attempted to scam me. I agreed to a policy over the phone based on the promised features. When I got the documents mailed, it turned out most of what was promised was missing in the agreement. Then company said they never promised these things and wanted to charge me substantial cancellation fee. Once I told them I have recordings, they backtracked on everything and cancelled it. The other ways I found it very useful was recording calls with my doctor so I could listen again in case I forgot or misheard something and also I used to record calls with my very ill relative to have some memories of him. Now I cannot do that anymore.
curt15 2y ago
The key point for someone "who wants full control over my system" is that *you*, the end user, have the final say over what programs are entitled to.
- bitwize 2y ago
  End users can't be trusted. Most of them are a "Taylor Swift nudes here! Download this file, open it, and enable all requested permissions" away from being pwned. The most effective defense against this kind of attack has been allowlisting what can be run.

by Sakos 2y ago

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varispeed 2y ago

Yes, you should be able to run apps you want in a way you want. Not the way the manufacturer or OS vendor wants. Of course sandboxing options should be available, but if you wanted to run an app fully unrestricted, you should be able to. I am still quite upset that I cannot run call recording apps on Android as they can't obtain permission to record audio during a call. edit: Just to add, call recording is legal in my country. Years ago it saved me from losing money when insurance company attempted to scam me. I agreed to a policy over the phone based on the promised features. When I got the documents mailed, it turned out most of what was promised was missing in the agreement. Then company said they never promised these things and wanted to charge me substantial cancellation fee. Once I told them I have recordings, they backtracked on everything and cancelled it. The other ways I found it very useful was recording calls with my doctor so I could listen again in case I forgot or misheard something and also I used to record calls with my very ill relative to have some memories of him. Now I cannot do that anymore.

curt15 2y ago

The key point for someone "who wants full control over my system" is that *you*, the end user, have the final say over what programs are entitled to.

bitwize 2y ago
End users can't be trusted. Most of them are a "Taylor Swift nudes here! Download this file, open it, and enable all requested permissions" away from being pwned. The most effective defense against this kind of attack has been allowlisting what can be run.